Before any invasion of China there would need to be alot of preperation and things such as moving several carriers won't be possible to hide along with the mobilisation and deployment of troops into the region and i'm sure the Chinese war planners are working out every contingency just as the Americans are.

Any war will also cause alot of changed to the way people live as domestic GPS will probably be disabled and prices will rise as things like clothing/new electronic gear start to become scarcer due to the factories are in China and i doubt the USA will allow enemy vessels to dock to unload stuff just because some hipster wants a new iphone.

Theres alot of people of Chinese origin living in the USA so they'll need to be interned/fed for the duration like the Japanese in WW2 which will place another burden on manpower/resources.

The main thing that will kill the USA's desire to goto war is that it won't be popular when they're shipping back corpses by the thousand.

Please tell me what idiot would invade China?

Our Airforce and Navy would defeat China and Russia combined. Small highly trained SOC units would be key.

We have been over this in ROTC and NROTC classes and submitted papers. China will be defeated by not wiping out the entire population with ordnance but by destroying crops and military installations.

An EMP strike would send China back to the stone age. Same for us.
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People dont understand. You cant technically defeat Russia or China or the United States. The next war is total annihilation. This is why wars will most likely be moved not to invasion of the powers but fighting over resources and ' puppets '.

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Wars are fought through intelligence and technology now. How did Albert Einstein put it? " I know not what world war 3 will be fought with , but the next war will be fought with sticks and stone." this is so true it is not even funny. World War 3 is total annihilation.

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China could not defeat the United States nor could Russia. There is a reason we have 600+ billion dollars in defense budgets and only the good Lord knows what kind of money is going into the black budgets.

Problem is, a $10,000 dity bomb could bring the world's economy to its knees.

It really comes down to win. remeber China is a thrid of the world population. They need oil and they will take it if they have to. Add that to how much our goverment owes there. money is what ever war is about.

China has a very large Military but moving them across the world will be next to impossible for them to cover up. They would invade after some kind of disaster. The Unite States navy aloows other nations to use the ocean when it comes rite down to it. They could shut down all trade if they ever had to and there would be little any could do about it.

Once again, I have to commend the members of A.T.S. They either are unwilling to look at the truth or unwilling to except it. I commend that, I see a lot of you saying that, the nuclear option would never happen in this day and age.

Most of the time I would tend to agree, but...Yes there is a BUT... Going against such a strong presents such as either China or Russia the first step is the Nuclear option, I've served my country for a while now, I've been boots on ground, in that desert.

What is really telling, that people miss here, is two things, 1st) N.A.T.O those gutless cowards, that are being relived of command every four years or so for incompetence or corruption? Yeah, those guys famous for not helping and generally taking men from every country and making them hate them even more. Yeah those guys, Their plan is to nuke first.

Tell me than, If N.A.T.O as well as the U.N plan is to nuke first than mopp up? What makes you think that the U.S would not nuke them first?

I also see some advocating for the use of a Bio-Weapon, Bad ideal, The problem I see most governments have when in concerning their Bio-Weapons, is that they are really concerned with getting the most horrid bad ass viral weapon they can make. Than having to backwards engineer a antidote. Most of the time they don't bother.

So if it breaches containment? What if while its decimating the target it mutates into some thing that the antidote cannot cure? spreads past the target country? or in deploying it it misses the target entirely due to prevailing winds changing?

China may be a threat one day, but today is not that day. China as it stands could not win, except thru electronic warfare. even than, it could only strike against civilian targets, because Military would be closed. They have no blue navy, only shallow coastal defense ships. Not a threat.

The Biggest problem would be their soldiers, with a nuclear option that reduces their soldiers to dust.


But what people are either ignoring or choosing to conveniently forget, is A WAR WITH CHINA WOULD NEVER HAPPEN. We have a better chance or a war with Russia.


China is just a dependent on us as we are of them. China will never call our debts in, just as they know we will never embargo their goods. If war where to happen, China would be crippled over night, from the loss of income, don't fool your selves guys, China makes a lot of our crap. we buy it, we are really intertwined. So come on, lets focus on who we could really end up fighting against here, the Russians.

If the US and China went to war there would be no winners, it would just be a matter of who loses less. A mainland invasion on either side would be disastrous so armed forced would likely be only a small factor. The Chinese would likely employ mostly electronic warfare to take advantage of the US dependence on technology, while the US would likely use some form of bioweapon to take advantage of the huge population in China, not to mention both sides likely using nukes in some form or another. The end result regardless of how it played out would be both countries getting decimated, along with any other countries they dragged into the conflict with them as well.

Reminds me of a quote from the movie WarGames after the computer learned about the principle of mutually assured destruction that "the only winning move is not to play."

World War 3 wont be about controlling land and taking over "objective" points. At all. It will be over resources and population control. We'll have troops on land, but not too much. Enough to be in a good position to take out anti-air and anti-ship defenses. Basically distractions. Once the deed is done, troops will come back. The main part of the war will be fought on water and in the air. We have ships with FELs to dissect missiles that are incoming. I expect these ships to be almost blockading our coasts.

What would we have to gain by going to war with another super power? We would do it to make them fall into "line" and to shut them up.

In all likelihood, a world-war would set the whole world back so much that it wouldn't be worth it. An EMP would kill everything we have built thus far, and how would we re access that information?




Oh, and to the poster on page 1-2, talking about how if an invasion force comes to our mainland, that they would prevail with their trained military? And calling us inbred yokels? lololol
Sure, they are trained with their firearms, but guns are only so accurate for some amount of time. Knowing the land and strategic positions would trump almost any invading force. They could outnumber and strategically choose what they are going to do, but with most people owning guns, they would have to take that into effect. Someone said something about "hand" weapons.

A flying piece of metal is still a flying piece of metal. I know many people just in my neighborhood of my town that own assault rifles, for your small sample size.
We may not be militarily trained, but we know how to shoot, when to shoot, and how to react to being fired upon.

If it comes down to US being invaded, I'll be defending with my "yokel" friends shooting our "hand" weapons against "trained" soldiers.

I'm pretty sure the US cannot win a war against Europe and Russia either. Or, indeed, against Narnia. Which would seem a more likely prospect.

I doubt they could even win a war against India.

But then, I doubt the Moon is made of stilton cheese. So .......

Duh

The US could destroy China but I doubt that it could occupy a country with over a billion people.

This is no news.

Originally posted by TKDRL
Depends..... If anyone tries to invade us now? They would be defeated easily. Wait a few more years, maybe liberals will have won, and got rid of our individual right to have fire arms.

Or the conservatives won and totally bankrupt our country by shipping all of our jobs to china, in that case who can afford a $400 gun when you need to eat...

No kidding?

No, really who ever said we could win a war with China? Those of you who think that defenseless Iraq and Afghanistan are a test of military might had better wake up. War with any super power would see war upon American shores and an end of our dear republic!

I would really like to know how many think that we would have any chance against China! I am certain we could kill many millions, but there could be only one outcome. Do we even have 6 billion bullets?

pretty obvious actually.

The US couldn't successfully invade iran either if they tried.