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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by lonewolf19792000
How is this not a violation of the free exercise clause of the 2nd Amendment?
so glad you set the record straight here. none of this sounded right to me......but hey, i'm bad about jumping to conclusions when i see the crap on MSM too. it's hard to seperate reality from the crap.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Fact Sheet Regarding the Michael Salman Case
The Michael Salman court case is about building safety. Building and safety codes are in-place to protect the safety and welfare of all of our residents. Some of the relevant facts in this case include:
A house of worship is allowed in any zoning district in the City of Phoenix
The case is about the building that is used for regular assembly does not meet construction and fire code requirements for assembly
All houses of worship in the City of Phoenix must conform to the same codes
Looks like this is another case of someone disobeying city codes, then crying "religious persecution".
Due to the regular, reoccurring high vehicular traffic in this quiet residential neighborhood, neighbors repeatedly complained about the public assembly occurring on his property. Because of the multiple, reoccurring complaints, the City investigated the activity and discovered numerous building code violations primarily related to fire safety standards. Once apprised of these violations, the City could be held liable for not enforcing safety code requirements in the event anyone was injured on the premises. Prior to commencement of prosecution, Mr. Salman was asked, repeatedly, to comply with the safety codes of the City. He chose to ignore these requests for voluntary compliance prior to the commencement of any proceedings.
Below is a summary of the case from the City's Law Department, including quotes from the relevant court judgments.
Watch out for FOX news... There's an agenda there.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Why you would even make that assumption, I don't know. I KNOW there is corruption in government. There is corruption in the police dept, in the church, in the educational system, in voting, in the freaking fire department! There is corruption, but that doesn't mean that everything and everyone is corrupt.
There's corruption everywhere... There is goodness everywhere, too.
Originally posted by AnIntellectualRedneck
Frankly, if the city ordinance has the affect of directly impeding the practicing of religion, which is exactly what it appears to do in this case, then the city ordinance has to either be modified or stricken.edit on 6-8-2012 by AnIntellectualRedneck because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
Hmmm.... Pages and Pages make for solid links lost. If everyone backing this nutcase is fully aware of the ongoing war he's been having with his neighbors since 2007 and his history of lawsuits back and forth during that period of time, I'm wondering why the support is there. If not, this site has dozens and dozens of sourced and cited pieces of information on the whole sorted mess.
All the background and solid data one could ask for
I am totally shocked about Fox. I don't even recognize the story by the way they tell it right now and I literally did check addresses and names carefully earlier to be SURE there weren't two of these guys because Fox is portraying someone so totally different than the FACTS and the stories which have been coming out of Phoenix for years about this, have supported.
I don't know why this story and why right now...Media finally decide to back a Religious guy running a church (80 people 2-3 times a week isn't a casual prayer meeting...it's a small church). Maybe the fact he IS causing so much trouble with everyone living around him is why.... It's odd.edit on 6-8-2012 by Wrabbit2000 because: (no reason given)