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Originally posted by polarwarrior
If the old testament doesn't count for Christians then why do they still believe in Noah's ark and Genesis and all that, pretty sure they still read genesis, at least the young earth creationists do anyway. Someone should tell them they are not supposed to read that part because its "not for them".
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
How it should be done and how it's practiced is currently experiencing some cognitive dissonance then.
Which is my point and that of the OP.
Originally posted by murphy22
Christians are not suppose to force there beliefs on anyone.
No place in the bible does it say to do this.
There are more things that ment death than just homosexual acts.
Christians can't judge, the bible does that.
Originally posted by Defcon5
There are Christians at various levels of understanding, just as there are on any other topic. Do not take what someone wrote, possibly incorrectly, on the net to be an official “statement of faith” of any religious organization.
Last one for now- Deuteronomy 25:11-12. "If two men, a man and his countryman, are struggling together, and the wife of one comes near to deliver her husband from the hand of the one who is striking him, and puts out her hand and seizes his genitals, then you shall cut off her hand; you shall not show pity." WTF? Eh?
11 The apostles and the believers throughout Judea heard that the Gentiles also had received the word of God.
2 So when Peter went up to Jerusalem, the circumcised believers criticized him
3 and said, “You went into the house of uncircumcised men and ate with them.”
4 Starting from the beginning, Peter told them the whole story:
5 “I was in the city of Joppa praying, and in a trance I saw a vision. I saw something like a large sheet being let down from heaven by its four corners, and it came down to where I was.
6 I looked into it and saw four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, reptiles and birds.
7 Then I heard a voice telling me, ‘Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.’
8 “I replied, ‘Surely not, Lord! Nothing impure or unclean has ever entered my mouth.’
9 “The voice spoke from heaven a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’
10 This happened three times, and then it was all pulled up to heaven again.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Like in history, "recieve Christ or you die"! That was not Christian. And it urks me that this is the modern view of it in some circles.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Yet the moral beliefs Christians get from these teachings are used all the time to discriminate. And to influence the voting booth. The definition of judgement includes this.
Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
All of Christendom. All the Christian Churches and the Christian members. That's the scope of this point. And my point is that moral beliefs are very much formed from OT commonly and subsequently put into practice in very tangible ways. Often discrimination for example.
Originally posted by murphy22
That said, telling someone they are wrong is not judging them.
The bible judges them.
If someone told you, "if you speed, you'll get a ticket!" how is that judging?
That's a warning of caution.
Originally posted by murphy22
Okay LL. You show me where it tells Christians to be violent? Not Jews of the OT but Cristians.
No place in the bible does it say to do this.
Like in history, "recieve Christ or you die"! That was not Christian. And it urks me that this is the modern view of it in some circles.