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The Greatest Crimes Against Humanity Are Perpetrated by People Just Doing Their Jobs

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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 01:14 PM
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The Greatest Crimes Against Humanity Are Perpetrated by People Just Doing Their Jobs

The greatest crimes of human history are made possible by the most colorless human beings. They are the careerists. The bureaucrats. The cynics. They do the little chores that make vast, complicated systems of exploitation and death a reality. They collect and read the personal data gathered on tens of millions of us by the security and surveillance state. They keep the accounts of ExxonMobil, BP and Goldman Sachs. They build or pilot aerial drones. They work in corporate advertising and public relations. They issue the forms. They process the papers. They deny food stamps to some and unemployment benefits or medical coverage to others. They enforce the laws and the regulations. And they do not ask questions.

Good. Evil. These words do not mean anything to them. They are beyond morality. They are there to make corporate systems function. If insurance companies abandon tens of millions of sick to suffer and die, so be it. If banks and sheriff departments toss families out of their homes, so be it. If financial firms rob citizens of their savings, so be it. If the government shuts down schools and libraries, so be it. If the military murders children in Pakistan or Afghanistan, so be it. If commodity speculators drive up the cost of rice and corn and wheat so that they are unaffordable for hundreds of millions of poor across the planet, so be it. If Congress and the courts strip citizens of basic civil liberties, so be it. If the fossil fuel industry turns the earth into a broiler of greenhouse gases that doom us, so be it. They serve the system. The god of profit and exploitation. The most dangerous force in the industrialized world does not come from those who wield radical creeds, whether Islamic radicalism or Christian fundamentalism, but from legions of faceless bureaucrats who claw their way up layered corporate and governmental machines. They serve any system that meets their pathetic quota of needs.

These armies of bureaucrats serve a corporate system that will quite literally kill us. They are as cold and disconnected as Mengele. They carry out minute tasks. They are docile. Compliant. They obey. They find their self-worth in the prestige and power of the corporation, in the status of their positions and in their career promotions. They assure themselves of their own goodness through their private acts as husbands, wives, mothers and fathers. They sit on school boards. They go to Rotary. They attend church. It is moral schizophrenia. They erect walls to create an isolated consciousness. They make the lethal goals of ExxonMobil or Goldman Sachs or Raytheon or insurance companies possible. They destroy the ecosystem, the economy and the body politic and turn workingmen and -women into impoverished serfs. They feel nothing. Metaphysical naiveté always ends in murder. It fragments the world. Little acts of kindness and charity mask the monstrous evil they abet. And the system rolls forward. The polar ice caps melt. The droughts rage over cropland. The drones deliver death from the sky. The state moves inexorably forward to place us in chains. The sick die. The poor starve. The prisons fill. And the careerist, plodding forward, does his or her job.


I have to admit, after I finished reading the above article I was left feeling a little bemused.

On the one hand I found myself agreeing with a lot of what it had to say, there is no doubt that these 'yes men', these people who are merely "following orders" (be it shredding mundane looking documents or committing mass murder) are contributing to the demise of humanity.

On the other hand, who am I to judge? I go to work everyday and do just that (I mean following orders, not mass murder). And the reason I do it is probably for the same reason most of them do it - to put food on the table for my loved ones, etc.

Albert Einstein once said: "The world is a dangerous place. Not because of the people who are evil; but because of the people who don't do anything about it." That's not to say that we are all "little Eichmanns," but I do think that at some point we have to draw a line and say "enough is enough!"

Afterall, how long can self preservation last?


First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.


Thoughts?
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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 01:20 PM
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"The Greatest Crimes Against Humanity Are Perpetrated by People Just Doing Their Jobs"

Time to re-examine the value our societies places on the majority of jobs that people spend so much of their lives doing, I suppose.

All part of questioning the status quo, and the more people realize that much of our economy is manmade time-wasting bologna (there have been threads about how at certain times in our history, jobs all very much served a purpose for society as a whole (pre-automation, basically), but now most jobs serve only to make a rich minority richer), the more advanced we'll be.

Wrecking our world and wasting our precious time here at the same time -- ridiculous!
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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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That's the beauty (or not) of compartmentalization.. David Icke speaks about this evil hierarchical structure of power its disgusting!



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 01:26 PM
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Very nice thread concept I must say!


And one which pretty much sums up my frustration with the world that we live in. Mindless compliance, combined with an unhealthy dose of 'Well I'm alright Jack' and 'I'll do it to them before they do it to me.'



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Stanford prison experiment is one example of this, that and the Milgram experiment show what happens when people feel they are just doing a Job.

Evil is done under the guise of just following orders, and we are all capable of this as the two Experiments I listed show.
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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by benrl
Stanford prison experiment is one example of this, that and the Milgram experiment show what happens when people feel they are just doing a Job.

Evil is done under the guise of just following orders, and we are all capable of this as the two Experiments I listed show.


And those experiments not only confirm that people will do as they are told, but also say a lot about the desire to conform. And particularly with the Milgram experiment, the need to 'please'.



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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True.

It begins (as most things do
) with childhood. We are taught to do things that we don't like doing in order to go on living that is to go on doing things we dont like doing.

I wish I had Alan Watts as my career advisor...




posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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It's never too late to change you know. Soooo....what do you desire?



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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I have to agree, I found the article very thought provoking.

As for it never being too late to change...well, I would have to agree with you. It is never too late but it is often too impractical. Especially when your roots are firmly planted. Which is why it is upto the next generation to do what we wouldn't, that is, raising a middle finger to conformity and doing a job they love instead of one they loathe.



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 04:54 PM
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Hmm. I don't know. It's up to elders to set an example for the youth; to plant seeds of knowledge and foster their ability to make good choices/think on their own.

Easy to cast responsibility onto others.

It up to individuals to say NO until the NOs outnumber the "profit at any cost", "so what if we're polluting the Earth... everybody's doing it", etc. crowd.



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 05:16 PM
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Excellent thread!
This evening I was thinking exactly about that, how this world has come where it is now because of people who live like robots. So many times I look around and I see indifference, and apathy, and a zombie-like attitude in people doing their job. And above that, people are so identified with their jobs, and fear it so much, that they will protect it by any means, even when they know that is unjust or is harming others. It ever happen to you to talk with one of those bureaucrats, or clerks, or teachers, or even doctors, to make them aware about a mistake or an injustice, and they just give you that dead look and go on exactly from where they stopped, like they didn't hear? I so hate that look in a person's eyes.... "I'm just doing my job", is the most I ever heard in terms of justifications. The job is all they know and care about.

I think the most dangerous people are people who don't care. Nothing touches them. Those are the people who will watch others die without blinking if they are sure that the system is protecting them.

I have no problem changing jobs when I feel that I'm required to become a mindless, insensitive robot. Or when I feel that what I'm doing is wrong towards other. I guess that's why I never made a carrier....


S&F for reading my mind.
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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 05:27 PM
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On the other hand, who am I to judge? I go to work everyday and do just that (I mean following orders, not mass murder). And the reason I do it is probably for the same reason most of them do it - to put food on the table for my loved ones, etc.


Who are you to judge? Well, first off, you're a human who belongs to a interdependent species called humanity. Second, judgement is such a perverse word. Do I need to judge a drug addict because I think drug abuse is not a healthy or productive thing? Of course not. Do I need to support them and act like their problem is okay, do I need to refrain from telling other people that drug addiction is a terrible thing just so I don't hurt your feelings, on the other hand? Of course not. If you do something that hurts other people, I have every right to be disgusted with what you do. That doesn't mean I am attacking YOU. You could very well stop hurting people today and I would no longer feel any sort of way about what you do.

On a lighter note, is that Alan Watts in your avatar?



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Not that I know much about Hedges, but I'm a bit confused.

He got his MA in divinity studies, but now he claims he's a socialist.
en.wikipedia.org...

Yet he randomly seems to include Stalin's mass murders as part of a "capitalist campaign" of private profiteering?
What nonsense.

He's taken some obvious truths, but he's also twisted them a hell of a lot.

From what I see free trade between people is what will increase productivity, happiness and a true concern for the environment.

Socialist countries are the biggest regional polluters, the least concerned with human rights, and the least concerned with their poor.

I'm not sure if he remembers the pre-1991 Soviet Union?
They didn't give a stuff about the environment or human rights?
Now that was socialism.

At least in free-market countries people can choose global brands and companies for their environmental and cultural policies, but where is socialism democratic?
Global trade and consumer choice is the best thing to ever happen to global prosperity and the environment.

What gives him the right to speak for the planet - is he speaking for people in North Korea where there is no global competition because it's a socialist dictatorship?

What country wants no free market trade?

I think the evils of modern socialism are entrenched and ignored because of privileged people like him who are willfully blind.

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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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Thanks for sharing op a truly powerful work.

We all know the majority will applaud it even though it mocks them, they're so cocooned, they cannot face reality and will kill us before doing so.
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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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You are exactly right.

If psychological experiments of that kind have taught us anything it is that even the most passive person is capable of the most awful acts of violence - given the right set of circumstances.

I wonder what the results would have been 100/200/2000 years ago?



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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Perhaps to be contrarian (I certainly like the clip).

But would it be correct to really say to young people they can just "follow their hearts"?

Where will that leave Western young people in the context of global competitiveness?

In the context of global education, that is not the message the Chinese, the Indians or even the Africans are giving their children.

Isn't that notion of education setting up a class of future beggars and slaves?


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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 07:18 PM
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But of course.

Where would it leave them? Happy, perhaps?

As for "global competativeness", urgh, what a horrible term! I understand and appreciate what you meant by it but it is terminology like that which breeds conflict. Telling a child "It's us against them!" is not the way forward.

Are we not already beggars and slaves?



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 07:40 PM
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Well I don't know, but looking at any third-world squatter camps that people are really grateful to come out of through targeted education, then I'd say no we're not necessarily "slaves" (in fact some slaves in history possibly lived materially better than that).

If slavery means being one of the poor masses in India, where people only know sewage water to bathe in, and they would do any job for a better future for their kids, then no we are not the poorest of the poor.

Far, far from it.

However, it's possible to descend into that.
It's not easy getting out.

So we have desperate people studying their butts off from fast emerging countries to get a better life.
They now have what was once considered a Western "work ethic".

In that context is it correct to tell young Western people - oh follow your heart - play some guitar and weave some baskets (if even that), one day (like when?) you'll be a master?

Isn't that a conspiracy to set kids in Western countries up for deliberate failure, and a deliberate hand-over of power?


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posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Such a great post on compartmentalization. S+F

Second line.



posted on Aug, 5 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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this thread is what i have been thinking for a long time,you will not find one of the so called ptb raiding a house,in a factory building weapons,inventing and so on, laymen work.so why do people do it?money,pride,some even say they love thier jobs.i see any of them jobs are a contribute to our downfall. its that simple.any one contributing to society is to blame for what society is doing to our humanity. complaicent by what ever excuse we wish to put foward.any one helping.if you are being told to get the water to drown a person knowinglly you are in on it.so,who thinks the system of today in any society is in favor of humanity?its been said here many times, the exploit,the ones who disagree,well,i care not to hear your excuse.its a fact or else please show me any society that does not have a huge problem of curruption and unending. (a part of the cold blooded machine)



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