reply to post by openlocks
"The point is, the attempt to become what you are not; the attempt to become what does not exist, is impossible, thus striving towards that can only
create problems for you psychologically. Say I am violent, and I decide I want to become non-violent. Well that is impossible, I cannot become
non-violent because that is just an idea, non-violence does not really exist but as a philosophical concept, only violence exists right now. However,
if I recognize that I am violent and I also recognize that this is unacceptable behavior, that it hurts other people and I don't really want to hurt
other people, then that change happens on its own accord without 'my' doing; violence is ended and no longer exists where as now non-violence is the
reality, it now exists. "
nope doesnt confuse me,,, thanks for the response,,, and i get what your saying,..,,.
I dig alan watts and this is similar to things he would say,,,, but I view what you are saying about not being able to change oneself for the change
we are talking about is a semantic deffinition of words change via philosophical concepts,,,, and i would say yes,,, but for conversation and talking
about it we do compute actions and group things in terms of words,,, if someone were to say to a violent person,, you need to become non violent,,,
that person would comprehend the definition of the term non- violent and make a choice weather or not they want to comply,.,.,.,. I understand what
you mean there is just a base existence,, but that base existence is the power of will which decides what the vehicle of body will do day to day,
minute to minute, second to second,,.,,
you say the attempt to become what is not or that which does not exist,,, i believe you are talking specifically about conceptual terms like you
stated such as happiness or bliss,,, I.e. I desiree happiness,,, i need to do this this and this and then i will be happy,,, i do these things,, im
not happy,,, maybe this will work,,, all along happiness is a state of mind ( balanced with external actions and reactions of course to a degree) but
you would agree that an artist,,, or someone who is physically fit are defined concepts relating to observable things in reality that can be obtained
by a person who was once not categorized in one of those concepts,,,, I dont know that we are arguing,, im certainly not,, just trying to understand
what you were talking about,, and when I view interesting sentences with meaning I do like to dissect it and regurgitate it back at the provider along
with questions just to create further clarity,,, it may seem argumentative but i am not trying to win anything,, hence why what I just wrote may make
no sense and have little to do with what you were trying to get across,,,.