I think there's a huge misconception here about the Masonic members on ATS, and the Non Masonic members who defend us. Also about those who roll their
eyes when you talk about "Illuminati" and how people are just to stubborn to believe you.
1.) The majority of Masons here likely do beleive in conspiracies.
2.) It's not that we don't beleive such groups exist, it's often that quite frankly we're better versed on the subject and our own history, and didn't
just discover the possibility of conspiracies on the "interwebs"! We're not trying to throw you off from thinking something is going on, if you would
just pay attention you just might learn something, we're often trying to help give you some insight if you would stop freaking out and pay attention.
3.) the Non masons here who defend us or also ar skeptical of your theories, are not apart of some "conspiracy" with us....rather they have become
educated on the subject, and have read multiple conspiracies from the plausable to the fantastical and learned to filter some of the rubbish....
4.) It's not that we disagree with the "concept" of the "illuminati" we just disagree with you CALLING them the Illuminati...because that group is a
historical group, that did exist, and it is NOT a common view that they are identical group to the modern groups today among those who seriously study
5.) Correcting you about relating groups doesn't always mean we don't think there is a connection, but rather we think your regurgitated connection is
false, because we already researchd it, and it may be a false front that hides the real one....
6.) All of history shows various groups competing for power.....how is it you think all of such groups suddenly became on the same page? Again if you
say the COFR, COR, FREEMASONS, WHITE LOTUS, JESUITS, MORMONS, JUSTIN BIEBER FANS, ACLU, are all apart of the NWO/ILLUMINATI AND are out to get us!!!
if we laugh at that, or mock it, or just disagree, it's not that we don;t think there's some truth in there or that there is possibly a conspiracy,
it's that we disagree that all those groups are doing so, and we certainly disagree they're working together, and evidence wise more then a few seem
to be at war with each other. Don't mistake our cringe for trying to invalidate ANY conspiracy....just your conspiracy, which while NEW to you, is
often one we have read about decades ago that was partially debunked or showed sloppy research.
Are thre conspiracies? YES. Should you be concerned? YES. Are there relationships between some of these groups? YES. Does Justin Beiber mean you harm?
YE....well I think so anyway. But there is not some simplistic all ecompassing theory that fits them together in neat crayola colorbook format. It's
complicated, we're talking sophisticated cold war cloak and dagger complicated. Where nothing is as it appears, false fronts rise and fall,
disinformation campaigns confuse it so much that even those waging the campaigns become confused....and you walk in here clearly not well read, grab
the first 30 to 200 year old debunked theory that is new to you and get upset when we don't thank you for revealing to us in total clarity some
truth.....you swager in the newest convert to whatever theory you found and skimmed, and wonder why we roll our eyes....we here being ALL of those on
the board who have done serious research from various backgrounds.....pay attention.... many here you find frustrating might just be able to help your
understanding if you would calm down, and use reason and logic, and common sense, and consider a library card.
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