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Originally posted by Mkoll
I am not a victim of mind control...
Originally posted by jude11
reply to post by TechUnique
They circulated printed papers showing falsities of religion and abuses of government and promoted a general state of desperation throughout society, all the while blaming it on religion and government. They sought to promote ANARCHY and REVOLUTION, whereby they would strip the monarchy (king) of power using the classes (people) as a lever to ultimately bring power back into their own hands, all the while creating new forms of government which would be puppets they could secretly control from behind the scenes.
Sounds like a certain 'Anonymous' group I know of...
Peace
Originally posted by Murgatroid
When people try to tell me that the New World Order is a fairy tale, that the illuminati doesn't exist and that democracy & our current political and economic system are bonafide and altruistic .. I get.. well I get extremely frustrated.
In my eyes this is one of the most mysterious aspects of ATS.
ATS has enough evidence of the Illuminati's crimes to fill 1000 warehouses...
Yet people here STILL refuse to see what is so painfully obvious.
Extremely frustrated only begins to explain how I feel.
In thread after thread they DEMAND proof but they REFUSE to believe it.
The Mind Control has them completely by the throat and incapable of believing the truth even if it bites them on the @$$.
It's almost as if they enjoy being lied to and deceived.
S & F
Considering there weren't York Rite Masons in America until 1829, and they showed up in Rhode Island first, not New York, yeah. You've got nothing.
Originally posted by TechUnique
Originally posted by Mkoll
But New York was not founded by York rite masons. It was originally New Amsterdam and it was founded to exploit the local beaver pelts. It was later the capital of the Dutch colony of New Netherlands. New Netherlands was taken by the British in the second Anglo Dutch war and remade as New York.edit on 4-8-2012 by Mkoll because: (no reason given)
So it was taken by the British as you say? What's to say it wasn't British Masons as Icke suggests?..
Originally posted by JoshNorton
Considering there weren't York Rite Masons in America until 1829, and they showed up in Rhode Island first, not New York, yeah. You've got nothing.
Originally posted by TechUnique
Originally posted by Mkoll
But New York was not founded by York rite masons. It was originally New Amsterdam and it was founded to exploit the local beaver pelts. It was later the capital of the Dutch colony of New Netherlands. New Netherlands was taken by the British in the second Anglo Dutch war and remade as New York.edit on 4-8-2012 by Mkoll because: (no reason given)
So it was taken by the British as you say? What's to say it wasn't British Masons as Icke suggests?..
Hell, there wasn't even a York Rite in England until the 1770s, and New York was already named that by 1664.edit on 2012.8.5 by JoshNorton because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by magickmaster
David Icke is NOT the author of the document, "The Secret History of America, The Greatest Conspiracy on Earth". That was authored by Joshua Bempechat, and it was made for a conspiracy catalogue. It was first drawn up in 1993 approx. It was the introduction of the catalogue which featured proofs and facts of the longtime conspiracy as researched by Josh Bempechat. The original catalogue was inspired by the Leading Edge Catalogue by Val Valerian, wherein all the topics of cponspiracy articles were featured for each issue, each month. When viewing the catalogue of issues of Leading Edge, you could get a vast education just by itself, without ever reading the articles. So, this was the inspiration for it. A massive catalogue of every conspiracy book and video and a brief summary of each one, along with a catalogue of articles from magazines and literature at the time. This featured an introduction, the "Secret History of America" and a selection of pictures and proofs assembled from the study of Jordan Maxwell, mostly. There were images of sacred geometry and the washington pentagram etc., along with images from GenISIS, and GeneSET, and news articles relevant to the drug war, Hemp, sovereignty, and many more subjects and topics. This was then sold for $3 and given away for free from his Hemp Booth in Venice Beach over the course of 7 years or so, until around 2000. In 1997 Josh took the ideas public with his website freedomdomain.com, which is now, and temporarily defunct, due mostly to hacker DDOS attacks constantly, probably tracing back to government and cointelpro ops.
Josh has posted here on ATS under numerous pseudonyms including conxposer, infoliberator, and nwodeath, only to be kicked off each time for exposing ATS control by Freemasons and other topics. Josh brought the world Terra Papers, online, FIRST, and now it has brought Robert Morning Sky out from hiding, when previously he had not been heard from for years. Josh brought our attention to GAALT, through Freedomdomain, and here on ATS, and the thread got hacked and contorted, re-arranged and lingers somewhere on here to this day. Josh recently wrote a book called the "Politics of Pot", all about Sovereignty and Cannabis and continues to be involved in his own forms of activism.
Just so an activist does not get thrown to the winds and forgotten, only to be credited to someone else, falsely. It was not David Icke who wrote that at all. Nor was any of the info gleaned from David Icke's work. David was hardly on the scene in 1993, when it was written. If anything, David has borrowed some material from Josh, considering this has been posted on David's site for years now.
edit on 4-8-2012 by magickmaster because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TechUnique
Originally posted by tvtexan
No matter what you think of David Icke in his later years the dude knew what he was talking about when it comes to secret societies and the New World Order.
David Icke is dead?
When did this happen?
I refer to David Icke like this because you rarely hear from him anymore. I think something scared him..
Originally posted by Mkoll I am open to the possibility that there are people trying to implement a one world order. I am also open to the possibility of there NOT being such a group.
When people try to tell me that the New World Order is a fairy tale, that the illuminati doesn't exist and that democracy & our current political and economic system are bonafide and altruistic .. I get.. well I get extremely frustrated.