Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by BIHOTZ
the manipulation of natural elements by man, could defiantly be defined as magic--and heres the KEY--
IF, the majority of the population is kept ignorant to the use AND value of said elements.
Why do the Mayan ziggurats have a flat spot on top for the Elite priests? The Judges deliberate behind closed doors--the Priest at his alter--- So we
dont know whats going on. And we are left to speculate--
This is how occulted knowledge widens the gap between dupes and adepts.
Manipulation of matter isnt magic--its natural -but the ability for some to conceal truth from others--is defiantly part of the majic show.
In Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll shows the same story. When Alice and Humpty have a conversation, Humpty Dumpty reveals the secret behind
the riddle. He also points out his own cognative dissonance between being a Mason, Mathematician and Jesuit. Remember, the Jesuits were enemies of
the Masons. Some Jesuits were closet Masons and Theosophists. My reading of Carroll says that he was both. He reveals this by stating that the
goals of man are impenetrable against God's truth. Words mean what God determines they mean. No more and no less. Words, in this sense, were
archetypes of men. Impenetrability is the state whereby two things cannot occupy the same space. Good and evil cannot be with each other before the
stronger rules the weaker.
`And only one for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'
`I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant, "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"
`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice objected.
`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master - - that's all.'
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything, so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again.
`They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs, they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I
can manage the whole of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'
The Glory of man was his birth and perfection. The fall of humpty was the fall from grace. All the kings tools and all the kings men could not put
Humpty back together again. Here is the riddle as a literal lament.
Man sat on the wall of choice when he was vulnerable like an egg on a wall.
Man took knowledge and used it before he was ready (before the egg hatched), and had a great fall (from God’s grace). If he had just waited, he
would have become his potential by hatching.
All of the King’s tools (technology) and all of the King’s men (Alchemists/Scientists/Mathematicians) could not put man back in his place of glory
---The wall can also be seen as the veil man tried to cross. I think God also enjoys a good mystery. We are the ones to find the treasure from the
The question in the end is this: Which is to be master, that's all. God is to be master.
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