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[Official] No holds bar... "Reality" is not what it seems.

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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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You have nowhere to go to find this.
You are already.
You are the Self.

youtu.be...




posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:21 AM
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What i mean is, the mind can contort reality to suit what ever perception there of that one takes from reality...thus..we can never truly define reality in its rawest terms due to our minds perception of such...it winds up being a biased notion.

When in reality.....it is what it is in the physical sense.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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Row, row, row the boat gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily life is but a dream.

Row, row, row the boat against the current and life will be a nightmare.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:31 AM
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Originally posted by Kastogere
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What i mean is, the mind can contort reality to suit what ever perception there of that one takes from reality...thus..we can never truly define reality in its rawest terms due to our minds perception of such...it winds up being a biased notion.

When in reality.....it is what it is in the physical sense.


The mind, and physical reality are two separate entities.

The mind, observes physical reality and has the burden of re-creating what that physical reality appears to be.

This observation is limited by the constraints of taste/touch/sight/smell/hearing... our observations of reality are subjectively confined by these timeless constraints. These constraints of being human.

Here we have the mind, and reality. They are both parts of a system of you. You are transposed in this relationship between the mind and reality as the one who experiences it all.

What is it that you experience? Reality? Yourself?

You experience the same thing as Albert Einstein, Adolf Hitler and your mom. Just differently, subjectively.

That is how it is for all of us. We experience being real, for a time. Knowing what the senses tell us it is. Knowing what the mind renders reality to be. But all of that is just a limited system of knowledge, and reality extends greatly beyond these constraints. These senses.


You are reality, experiencing itself as you experiencing it as it is.

You are not separate from it, you are a part of it. It is a part of you.

It is absolute, eternal and without end. By that, so are you as a part of it.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:34 AM
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Very astute....I can dig it....good stance..



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:35 AM
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The mind is what is seen and reality sees the mind (thoughts arising).
Reality is the seeing aspect.
All seeing and all knowing and always present.

All the while you believe you are a 'something' there will be a 'you' suffering.
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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by Kastogere
reply to post by YouAreDreaming
 


Very astute....I can dig it....good stance..


Thanks Kas...

I'm just subjectively expressing interests in what is already right now, in front of you and me. A system of reality that is so amazing and engaging.

I just want to understand beyond the limits of my own human constraints, what this reality actually is.


And from my perspective, what this reality is; is beyond a physical idea. It's way beyond such ideas. Ergo, I am just glad to be a small insignificant part of it. Observing itself.


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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by YouAreDreaming
 


The mind is what is seen and reality sees the mind (thoughts arising).
Reality is the seeing aspect.
All seeing and all knowing and always present.

All the while you believe you are a 'something' there will be a 'you' suffering.
edit on 16-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


I've suffered. I'm not going to lie. I have suffered. It was not at all pleasant or nice.

That said, I have also not suffered. And that has been pleasant and nice.

Through suffering, I have come to appreciate times when suffering did not exist. And there are plenty of non-suffering times to reflect on.

There are also lots of times to reflect on suffering... so what do I do?



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:47 AM
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Find the one that is suffering. Actively search within for the sufferer.
I used to suffer until i did this and now i have been released.
The truth shall set you free.

youtu.be...
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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Let reality be cause of actions. No?



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by PillarOfStrenght
Let reality be cause of actions. No?


Yes.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by PillarOfStrenght
Let reality be cause of actions. No?


Reality exists.

It is very real. Be it our actions that caused it? I don't know.

We are a part of it. And that means something. What it means may be purely subjective.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:59 AM
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Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by PillarOfStrenght
Let reality be cause of actions. No?


Reality exists.

It is very real. Be it our actions that caused it? I don't know.

We are a part of it. And that means something. What it means may be purely subjective.


Reality causes and contains everything but reality is uncaused.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:01 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by PillarOfStrenght
Let reality be cause of actions. No?


Reality exists.

It is very real. Be it our actions that caused it? I don't know.

We are a part of it. And that means something. What it means may be purely subjective.


Reality causes and contains everything but reality is uncaused.


Yet... here it is.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by PillarOfStrenght
Let reality be cause of actions. No?


Reality exists.

It is very real. Be it our actions that caused it? I don't know.

We are a part of it. And that means something. What it means may be purely subjective.


Reality causes and contains everything but reality is uncaused.


Yet... here it is.


It's a miracle.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by PillarOfStrenght
Let reality be cause of actions. No?


Reality exists.

It is very real. Be it our actions that caused it? I don't know.

We are a part of it. And that means something. What it means may be purely subjective.


Reality causes and contains everything but reality is uncaused.


Yet... here it is.


It's a miracle.


It definitely is...

I totally agree. It's a miracle that it exists at all, and that there is this whacked raced of humans all stuck right dab in the middle of it, trying to understand what that miracle actually is.

We are all part of that miracle.

Fun times my friend, fun times.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:08 AM
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Humans are part of a story.
Whereas reality is the page the story is written on.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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Humans are part of a story.
Whereas reality is the page the story is written on.


Humans are also dreamers. I mean to awaken such dreamers.
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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:16 AM
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Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by YouAreDreaming
 


Humans are part of a story.
Whereas reality is the page the story is written on.


Humans are also dreamers. I mean to awaken such dreamers.
edit on 16-8-2012 by YouAreDreaming because: (no reason given)


The only point of waking up is to stop having nightmares. If the sufferer is still there life is a nightmare.
Hell or Heaven.

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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by YouAreDreaming

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by YouAreDreaming
 


Humans are part of a story.
Whereas reality is the page the story is written on.


Humans are also dreamers. I mean to awaken such dreamers.
edit on 16-8-2012 by YouAreDreaming because: (no reason given)


The only point of waking up is to stop having nightmares. If the sufferer is still there life is a nightmare.


It's not always about suffering. Sure, sufferng is a part of being a lifeform on planet Earth.

We will all experience suffering at some point in our lifetimes.

However, life is more than suffering. There is a lot of non-suffering moments going on. I say, focus on the non-suffering and be grateful if you are not suffering in your lifetime.

If life is temporary, which it is. Then so is suffering. These are artifacts of existence and are not the standard that existence defines itself as.

The Universe is an absolute... it came from something. Not nothingness. We came from something that is absolute.



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