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Originally posted by links234
Originally posted by Doalrite
I also find the fact that people would rather talk about mundane unimportant things rather than talk about things that would actually benifit everyone.
Your 'simple' ideas would only benefit a few. I take issue with a number of your solutions but as someone earlier mentioned...you seem to want to adhere to the constitution until it gets in your way.
The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution officially outlaws slavery and involuntary servitude, except as punishment for a crime. It was passed by the Senate on April 8, 1864, by the House on January 31, 1865, and adopted on December 6, 1865. On December 18, Secretary of State William H. Seward proclaimed it to have been adopted. It was the first of the three Reconstruction Amendments adopted after the American Civil War.
On February 3rd, 1913, the states ratified the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It reads:
"The congress shall have the power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
This amendment gives the federal government the power to tax a person's income. These income taxes can be used to pay for the government's new programs. Taxes are not based on a flat rate but can change according to the amount of income earned. The richer you are, the more taxes you pay. If you're poor, you get a break.
If you examine the bill closer you will find that the amount of states needed to ratify this amendment was never met, and adding to that, this bill is completely unconstitutional as it is a direct unpartitioned tax
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Originally posted by links234
reply to post by Doalrite
You're so willing to throw away the 16th, why not the 13th? You say we've evolved beyond that mentality so why not just get rid of it? It's superfluous outlawing something that no one does anyway.
Taxes aren't simple for a lot of different reasons. That's not even the start of it. Laws aren't always that simple because they're not applicable all the time. I don't even know how to address your top-down approach to government officials because it doesn't make any sense.
The world is a complicated place, if you don't want complication then go to Wyoming or Montana. Fewer people to complicate things.
Originally posted by jjkenobi
I agree with most of what you are proposing. The most recent post however, nope. I don't want to live in a city. Ever. Grew up in one and it's country life for me. =)
I think that getting most spoiled kids out of their mothers home and give them an opportunity to work and grow themselves would be good.
Originally posted by jimmiec
Just make a flat tax of maybe 15% on purchases. Exclude food/medicine. So no income tax. Just a tax on what you buy. Tariff imported goods at the same rate and keep it simple.