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12. The builder’s villages, villages of people who built pyramids near Giza and a small worker's village has also been uncovered that seems to have been allotted the task of constructing Khentkawes' tomb. In some ways they are similar to a builders village associated with the tombs in the Valley of the Kings
Originally posted by secretsofthesunsects
Hans
that is highlarious, built as tombs then intrusion tombs on top of them. That's almost as funny as the 'mainstream' guy I came across who suggested that Khufu was hidden in a different secret chamber inside the GP. At least you realise that intrusion burials were a key aspect, as do a few of the mainstreamers.
As for examples of solar chambers in the Archaeological record there are 1000s of them, way too many to list. Most of the community ones do not register on this sort of board or the books/blogs of mainstreamers or fringers. Lots do not even have names. They are just not big enough for the egos of most of those that write.
If these people did bother to look around the monster pyramids they would find these chambers on almost every continent. Then its a short step up the side of a Step pyramid to work out the industrial nature.
Wrt Giza, as I will repeat again, these structures are slightly different to the chambers and have another use tho Phnom Da should help any one interested in solving most of the mystery. A neglected site in S.Cambodia, which has the elements that make up cheops and the water features. Alas not the same geology, that is unique to Giza.
Actually Hans some concepts are just too big to be dropped into convenient soundbites. It would be nice to sell more books but I like to give them away too. The aim is to re-establish this technology, not cheap sales, followed by cheap dull comments.
Originally posted by secretsofthesunsects
reply to post by Hanslune
Hans
''Nice prose but you must have forgotten to provide evidence of said solar chambers, i would suggest that you link to a few excavations that have found them '
You will see how funny that is when I run the Ancient Solar Premise in its own thread. ''Link to a few excavations'' there are pictures on my website, you have hundreds on your own camera, but I will link to them on another thread. I would hate to disturb this comedy routine that is the doomed tomb theory.
Here is another classic contradiction in terms:
These impregnable tombs with all the valuables of the Idiot Lords, countless tons of stones and presumably the guys working at the cemeteries were in fact 'were looted and 'open to the public' for thousands of years '
The best of the rest is just holes in the ground for stiffs , which you seem to be doing a poor job at supporting with hard evidence. Lots of nice peripheral stuff but the core of actual dead bodies is sadly missing and you can't hope to explain the size of the structures with Idiot Lord Ego.
Originally posted by Hanslune
reply to post by Shane
No, not really, it shows that the pyramids were there. In Manetho you have to look exactly at what he was writing. I would suggest you look at a direct translation of Manetho and how he looks at ‘race’.
Link to a PDF on Manetho
Sure they do, the C-14 dates and the chronology gives us more than a clue, we do know it was after the AE invented writing for one thing….
We get Manetho from mentions in other texts, to include those wishing to reinforce their own view….especially the Jewish and Christian writers
Didn't respond to your bible quotes, wasn't sure what the point was, perhaps you could explain further as to how it pretains to the mainstream view of the AE pyramids
Originally posted by Shane
And for HARTE
I mean no disrespect my Friend, (and despite what you may think, I do think of you as a friend, well Antifriend in the worst case, but friend is there none the less.)
Originally posted by ShaneNot everyone has been here as long as you. Some new contributors or viewers may not have these delusions embedded in their grey matter as of yet, and maybe when presenting their own interpretation, you may actually learn something from them, looking at things from their own perspective.
Not everyone is as Wise or Knowledgeable as you, my Friend
Originally posted by ShaneSo suggesting this is rehashed stuff, as it may be, it doesn't mean it should not be brought up again.
Ciao
Shane
Originally posted by Shane
But, I do understand your implied comments as well, when you made them. I also feel, we should apply a Test, for Joining ATS, with several questions which relate to Topics of Threads.
I see constantly the Same News Articles being presented discussing the same topics in different new threads with no efforts take to Search ATS's Archives to see if applicable Threads already exist, which can be built upon, and expanded. I do this, even when I find topics, that others started. It's not always about the Stars and Flags. Its about the material we can mass into a topic.
Originally posted by Shane
reply to post by Harte
Now here, I think Hans is intending to somehow fence off Mainstream, from the others views, and reflect on it, for now.
It sounds then as if he will do the Fringe, and on and on, as later add ons.
13. The ancient Egyptian religion: The religion concentrated on the pharaoh, the king of Egypt. Although he was deemed a human, the pharaoh was believed to be descended from the gods. He acted as the intermediary between his people and the gods, and was obligated to maintain communication between the gods and man through rituals and offerings so that they could maintain order in the universe. The ancient Egyptians dedicated enormous resources to the performance of these rituals and to the construction of the temples to honour the Gods. An important aspect of the religion was the belief in the afterlife and funerary practices. The Egyptians made great efforts to ensure the survival of their souls after death, providing tombs, grave goods, and offerings to preserve the bodies and spirits of the deceased. This devotion to the Pharaoh and preservation of his body led to the pyramids. As we have seen in other cultures, excessive resources have been used to massage an elites ego by preparing a massive burial edifice or gifts
The life-force, the ka, came into being when the person was born birth. At death, the ka had to be sustained in the tomb with offerings of food and drink, and the prayers of those priest or family members. The provisions did not have to be real; models and pictures on the walls would work, thanks to the magic of heqa, ritual and word, and those things written in stone would last forever even if the “Appeals to the Living” went unheeded.
In the field we looked for organic materials that were clearly linked to the construction of the monuments.
Temples and pyramids built from mud bricks yielded grass, straw, and reed fragments, which were mixed into the clay and soil before shaping the bricks. Finding suitable materials in stone monuments was a greater challenge. In most of these monuments the stone building blocks were leveled and secured in place with mortar that was manufactured locally. This required massive fires to heat gypsum or limestone. The roasted minerals and the ashes from the fires were added to the mortar mix, along with remaining charcoal fragments. The usually very small fragments (1–2 mm) constituted the datable material. While searching the monuments, we examined seams between stone blocks for mortar filling and for black specks of charcoal inside the mortar.
The old-wood problem
Ancient Egypt’s population was restricted to the narrow confines of the Nile Valley with, we assume, a sparse cover of trees. It is likely that, by the pyramid age, the Egyptians had been intensively exploiting wood for fuel for a long time.
Because of the scarcity and expense of wood, the Egyptians would reuse pieces of wood as much as possible. Some of this recycled wood was burned, for example, in mortar preparation. If a piece of wood was already centuries old when it was burned, radiocarbon dates of the resulting charcoal would be centuries older than the mortar for which it was burned.
In the 12th Dynasty, Amenemhet I (1991-1962 BC) left clear evidence of this kind of recycling. He took pieces of Old Kingdom tomb chapels and pyramid temples (including those of the Giza Pyramids) and dumped them into the core of his pyramid at Lisht.