If there was a hidden cure for cancer i doubt Steve Jobs would have died.

A lot of it isn't even repressed, the common man doesn't think about the repercussions from some of those inventions. Many of them would put hundreds, maybe thousands if not more out of work. Which in turn would start a downward spiral, because they would be spending less if at all, losing many things. Which would force other jobs to lay people off etc etc.

You see, the problem with "free energy" and water powered cars that last forever, in my mind is this. Why dont that guys parents, instead of going underground, take there sons engine schematics, scan them onto a PC, PDF them then upload them to any number of thousands of torrent website or file hosting servers exactly?

Kinda weird that, funny how in age where knowledge can essentialy be shared to billions of people near instantaneously, nobody, not one person ever seems to get there bright idea out there onto the internet.

Never mind the oil companies, why these people refuse to do the most basic of things, like actualy tell someone about there research and share it, is beyond me, thats the real conspiracy.

Whats even more ironic is, oil companies are the first people to share there technology to everyone, they advertise there technology all the time, real cutting edge, billion dollar engineering technology, they want people to know how advanved and efficient they are, profit driven of course, but yet, they still share it freely. Weird.

Pot. And one wonders why it's illegal.

Yeah with Holland having some of the highest cancer rates in the world, that statement sure stands up lol to scrutiny lol.

The reason ultra high mpg vehicles aren't sold in the states has to do with the fact that we get taxes to fund our roads from filling up at the pump. More mpg equals horrible roads by our current policies.

It's beyond stupid, so an alternative explanation is needed. I think the policy simply isn't looked at to be reworked because of lobbyists from BigOil possibly buying off our politicians every time it gets mentioned.

Nothing else makes sense to me. People would gladly opt in for a flat tax rate to fill in the void from filling up less at the pumps.

A ballpoint pen has very little monetary value. It requires very little 'energy' in order to crank one out and the materials used are materials that require very little energy to produce/manufacture. Ten thousand pens may have some value but not just one.

We would think nothing of getting home and realizing we had inadvertantly pocketed the pen from the bank teller.
We would not be too upset to learn that our co-worker walked off with the pen off of our desk.
We'll come across another one.


What if someone walked/drove off with your car?
What then??
We would be pissed!!!
We call the police,file a police report, make a statement, lose sleep, cry, etc.

Why?

Because the 'car' has more 'value' than the 'pen'.

What gives the car more value than the pen???

Cost of manufacturing.

It costs money to keep the lights on in the factory and to run all of the machinery.
It costs money to buy fuel to run the machines to mine the raw materials.
It costs money to fuel the trucks to ship those materials to the factory.
It costs money to obtain the leather to upholster the seats.
It costs the farmer money to FEED those cows.
It costs the fertilizer company money to produce the fertilizer that is going to fertilize the corn which will feed the cow which will produce the leather seats.
It costs money to pay all of the workers........who need that money......to pay their bills for things like their house, their car payment, their electric bill, their food bill etc, all things which cost so much money because of the cost associated with their production and transportation.

If If IF it were completely free to:

Keep the lights on in the factory and to run all of the machinery.

Buy fuel to run the machines to mine the raw materials.

Fuel the trucks to ship those materials to the factory.

Obtain the leather to upholster the seats.

FEED those cows.

Produce the fertilizer that is going to fertilize the corn which will feed the cow which will produce the leather seats.

Then YES, your car would hold the same value as a common ballpoint pen.
If someone drove off with yours you would walk in to a dealership and ask if you could borrow one of theirs and if they said "No, I'm sorry you'll have to purchase one", you would fork over the $.99 cents and drive off into the sunset.

EVERYTHING would be either free or cost soooo little that it would hardly be worth the effort to ring it up.

Think about that the next time you question whether or not free energy exists and wonder why these greedy parasites who are our slavemasters would want to keep this out of our hands.

Originally posted by Jedite
A lot of it isn't even repressed, the common man doesn't think about the repercussions from some of those inventions. Many of them would put hundreds, maybe thousands if not more out of work. Which in turn would start a downward spiral, because they would be spending less if at all, losing many things. Which would force other jobs to lay people off etc etc.

Using your logic we could never have invented the automobile because "what is going to happen to all of the jobs" You know the ones I mean. The saddle makers!
Are you going to put hundreds of fine upstanding, hardworking, saddle makers out of work just because YOU want a car??

It all has a way of working itself out now doesn't it?

Originally posted by Screwed
A ballpoint pen has very little monetary value. It requires very little 'energy' in order to crank one out and the materials used are materials that require very little energy to produce/manufacture. Ten thousand pens may have some value but not just one.

We would think nothing of getting home and realizing we had inadvertantly pocketed the pen from the bank teller.
We would not be too upset to learn that our co-worker walked off with the pen off of our desk.
We'll come across another one.


What if someone walked/drove off with your car?
What then??
We would be pissed!!!
We call the police,file a police report, make a statement, lose sleep, cry, etc.

Why?

Because the 'car' has more 'value' than the 'pen'.

What gives the car more value than the pen???

Cost of manufacturing.

It costs money to keep the lights on in the factory and to run all of the machinery.
It costs money to buy fuel to run the machines to mine the raw materials.
It costs money to fuel the trucks to ship those materials to the factory.
It costs money to obtain the leather to upholster the seats.
It costs the farmer money to FEED those cows.
It costs the fertilizer company money to produce the fertilizer that is going to fertilize the corn which will feed the cow which will produce the leather seats.
It costs money to pay all of the workers........who need that money......to pay their bills for things like their house, their car payment, their electric bill, their food bill etc, all things which cost so much money because of the cost associated with their production and transportation.

If If IF it were completely free to:

Keep the lights on in the factory and to run all of the machinery.

Buy fuel to run the machines to mine the raw materials.

Fuel the trucks to ship those materials to the factory.

Obtain the leather to upholster the seats.

FEED those cows.

Produce the fertilizer that is going to fertilize the corn which will feed the cow which will produce the leather seats.

Then YES, your car would hold the same value as a common ballpoint pen.
If someone drove off with yours you would walk in to a dealership and ask if you could borrow one of theirs and if they said "No, I'm sorry you'll have to purchase one", you would fork over the $.99 cents and drive off into the sunset.

EVERYTHING would be either free or cost soooo little that it would hardly be worth the effort to ring it up.

Think about that the next time you question whether or not free energy exists and wonder why these greedy parasites who are our slavemasters would want to keep this out of our hands.

Thanks for your post, Screwed, said it better than I ever could. Starred.