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Originally posted by cassiper
I'm glad. I'm all for freedom of speech but these nuts needed to be reigned in.
I don't like seeing the rights of others taken away but WBC takes the rights of others away when they wouldn't have their right to free speech if not for those whose funerals they protest.
Our govt doesn't provide enough for our veterans... The least they can do is give them and their families the proper burial and memorial service.
Originally posted by cetaphobic
The constitution does not guarantee unchecked, totally free speech. It does guarantee the right to PEACEABLY assemble. What WBC does it not peaceable.
Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by cetaphobic
The constitution does not guarantee unchecked, totally free speech. It does guarantee the right to PEACEABLY assemble. What WBC does it not peaceable.
Please reference or link to the Article under the Constitution that curtails free speech. I would love to read it.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by cetaphobic
The constitution does not guarantee unchecked, totally free speech. It does guarantee the right to PEACEABLY assemble. What WBC does it not peaceable.
Please reference or link to the Article under the Constitution that curtails free speech. I would love to read it.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Good! Personally I think this is a great thing. I can understand the right for people to protest for what they believe in, but what these protesters are doing at military funerals is just flat out wrong and should not be allowed to take place.
I am glad that congress finally came together and agreed that something need to be done on this issue. Now I am sure there will be people saying this is a infringement on their rights. Which, in a sense it is. But what they do is wrong. Saying it was "God's will" to kill the soldiers and that it is part of "God's plan". Imagine how the families of these soldiers feel?
The bill also contains a variety of measures meant to address veterans health, benefits, housing and education. Obama is expected to sign to the legislation later this month.
So what do you think ATS?
www.huffingtonpost.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1
I know it's all politics and everyone has a strong opinion on it. I like seeing different opinions because then it makes me stop and think about the other side of the argument.
-SAP-
Originally posted by Bakatono
reply to post by SloAnPainful
Yes, I have read the First Amendment to the US Constitition. I was asking for a reference to where it defines exactly what types of speech is NOT free, as cetaphobic was referring to.
ETA: I noticed you underlined "peaceably assemble". If you are insinuating they are not peaceful that is fine. There are municipal statues and codes on the books of all cities and towns to deal with disturbance of the peace already. We do NOT need a federal law infringing on the rights of free speech in order to stop people from being violent.
However, I don't remember these jackasses being violent. I will have to google it.edit on 4-8-2012 by Bakatono because: (no reason given)
Free speech zones are areas set aside in public places for political activists to exercise their right of freedom of speech as an exercise of what is commonly called "TPM" or "time, place, manner" regulation of speech. Free speech zones are set up by the Secret Service who scout locations near which the president is to pass or speak. Officials may target those displaying signs and escort them to the free speech zones before and during the event. Protesters who refuse to go to free speech zones could be arrested and charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct, and resisting arrest. In 2003, a seldom-used federal law was brought up that says that "willfully and knowingly to enter or remain in any posted, cordoned off, or otherwise restricted area of a building or grounds where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting" is a crime.
Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1
I know it's all politics and everyone has a strong opinion on it. I like seeing different opinions because then it makes me stop and think about the other side of the argument.
-SAP-
Only if your politics are not in line with the Constitution of the United States.
If you have a disagreement with our Constitution you can always leave. Or lobby for an Amendment to remove or curtail the 1st Amendment if you don't like it.
Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1
I know it's all politics and everyone has a strong opinion on it. I like seeing different opinions because then it makes me stop and think about the other side of the argument.
-SAP-
Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1
I know it's all politics and everyone has a strong opinion on it. I like seeing different opinions because then it makes me stop and think about the other side of the argument.
-SAP-
Only if your politics are not in line with the Constitution of the United States.
If you have a disagreement with our Constitution you can always leave. Or lobby for an Amendment to remove or curtail the 1st Amendment if you don't like it.
Originally posted by ThePublicEnemyNo1
Certainly that wasn't for me...but if you only knew half of what I know my father endured for you/us/me and this Nation it would make you sick and I'm still mad
Originally posted by ThePublicEnemyNo1
Originally posted by Bakatono
Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1
I know it's all politics and everyone has a strong opinion on it. I like seeing different opinions because then it makes me stop and think about the other side of the argument.
-SAP-
Only if your politics are not in line with the Constitution of the United States.
If you have a disagreement with our Constitution you can always leave. Or lobby for an Amendment to remove or curtail the 1st Amendment if you don't like it.
You and I know it's just not that simple