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posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 11:51 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Nice way to somehow disparage Einstein. He escaped the murdering rightwing scum that were the Nazis. That gave him an excellent insight into McCarthyism.


Hitler, and Mussolini implemented LEFTWING policies, and Hitler went so far as FORCING corporations to build what he would say they needed to build "for the good of the nation", which was mostly only war material.

Hitler, and Mussolini were SOCIALISTS, and some other members and myself have proven this on several occassions... But leftwingers call SOCIALISTS like Hitler and Mussolini "rightwingers", when Hitler and Mussolini had been LEFTWING all their lives, because the new socialists are ashamed of the truth...
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No. You obviously know nothing about history. Can I remind you that both Hitler and Mussolini imprisoned, exiled or just plain killed their socialist or communist enemies? They were right wing. Right wing lunatics to be precise.


I think they were ultra left Factionists.

They didn't want the mainstream commies screwing up their plans.

They had different ideas and agendas.

They were Factionists. Ultra Left Wing Dingers.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
They were Factionists. Ultra Left Wing Dingers.

Fascism is by definition right wing.

By what definition? By the definition given in the Doctrine of Fascism.

It's normal for politicians to play fast and loose with terms but we should be better than that. We should be able to point out when someone in history used a term or an ideal to gain popular support and not use their actions as an example of that term or ideal.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 01:20 AM
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Fascism is most definitely right wing. By definition!


The original political meanings of ‘left’ and ‘right’ have changed since their origin in the French estates general in 1789. There the people sitting on the left could be viewed as more or less anti-statists with those on the right being state-interventionists of one kind or another. In this interpretation of the pristine sense, libertarianism was clearly at the extreme left-wing.

www.la-articles.org.uk...

Extreme of the left is anarchism, on the extreme right is fascism. The establishment is right wing. Any form of authority is right wing, no matter what they claim to be. That is where the people failed, by being tricked by those in authority. Conditioned to support a system not in their best interest.

Fascism is a nationalist state system. Nationalism is not socialism. Socialism is not a state system, it is an economic system whereby the workers own the means of production.

Hitler did not use the term socialism as a description of their economy, they used the term for political reasons. Their economy was nationalist with some capitalism. No worker ownership at all.

Why did Hitler put socialists, communists, unionists, anarchists, liberals, social democrats, in the camps if he was one of them? No one can answer that because there is no answer other than he wasn't a socialist, he put any opposition to his power in his concentration camps. Left-wingers had to wear a red triangle, like the gays had to wear pink, and the Jews wore yellow.

Nazi concentration camp badges

It's only post WWII when the definitions of left and right were twisted, along with left-wing terms.

Liberalism became the neo-socialism. Liberalism is not even left-wing, it supports government with a social safety net.

Churchill was a conservative, yet ran for the Liberal Party.


"Liberalism is not socialism, and never will be", Winston Churchill in 1908 when he was the Liberal Party candidate for Dundee, Scotland.



Why "Socialism"?
Socialism, in it's traditional and true definition, means "the workers democratic ownership and/or control of the means of production". Such a definition implies that rather than a government bureaucracy for managing such means, there is a focus on highly democratic organization, education and awareness, and every individual is encouraged to become an active, rather than passive participant in that which effect their lives. Only the workers themselves bear the knowledge of what their own freedom and liberty means, and only they know what is best for themselves, ultimately. Advocates of the state, be they on the left, or the right, have repeatedly defined the meaning of "socialism" to mean arbitrary rule by a set of "leaders", or a political con-game in which socialism is no more than capitalism with a few token adjustments for bearability.


Libertarian Socialism

Libertarian socialism is just another name for anarchism, stateless socialism.


"Anarchism is stateless socialism," Mikhail Bakunin


Mikhail Bakunin


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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
I think they were ultra left Factionists.

They didn't want the mainstream commies screwing up their plans.

They had different ideas and agendas.

They were Factionists. Ultra Left Wing Dingers.


Mate, you're stirring again!



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 05:57 PM
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Just a little more evidence that Hitler and Mussolini were right-wing, fascist not socialist...


...The so-called National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), or the Nazi Party, began as a small right-wing group and one of the more than 70 extremist paramilitary organizations that sprang up in postwar Germany. It was neither socialist nor did it attract many workers; it was a party initially made up of war veterans and misfits. The man responsible for its rise to power in Germany was Adolf Hitler, a failed Austrian art student and war veteran...


The Interwar Years and World War II for AP European History


On this day in history, March 23:

The Fascist political movement was founded in Milan, Italy, by Benito Mussolini in 1919. In one generation, it spread to Germany, Austria, Spain, Rumania, Portugal, Greece and other countries....


Mussolini Founds Fascist Movement in Italy


Adolf Hitler was arrested after the failure of the Beer Hall Putsch. Hitler was charged with treason. Such an offence carried the death penalty in Germany at this time. His trial lasted five weeks and turned Hitler into a national figure. For the first time, he was given a platform on which to make his views widely known to people outside of his party. Hitler's right to defend himself was used as a means of attacking all those he hated - the Jews, communists, socialists and weak politicians who had lost Germany the war; the shameful signing of the Versailles Treaty by weak politicians etc.

None of this was new and many right wing parties existed in Germany. However it was the way Hitler presented his ideas that brought him media attention. "History will tear to tatters the verdict of this court", he announced shortly after sentence was passed.

Hitler was found guilty of treason - a crime against your country. If he had been a socialist or communist, it is almost certain that he would have received the death sentence. However, many in the court supported his views and he received a prison sentence of 5 years....


History Learning Site Mein Kampf


The de facto Nazi bible was outlawed in the delicate postwar years, when Germany was a traumatized, post-fascist country, far removed from the imperative of coming to terms with its past.

"The prohibition was completely justified at the time," says Hajo Funke, a political scientist emeritus at Berlin's Free University. "Both the American and German authorities were rightly worried that it could attract a cult following. In addition to this, there were much tougher prohibitions aimed at a population that had just undergone 12 years of fierce Nazi propaganda and still had those thoughts in their heads. At the time, there were broad networks of active former Nazis, including ex-SS officers."

Today there are still networks of right-wing extremists in Germany, as there are most everywhere in Europe. And in Germany, the state's rigorous prosecution of Nazi propaganda is accepted by most citizens. Just last year, Germans were shocked at revelations that a terrorist group calling itself the National Socialist Underground had murdered 10 people, nine of them immigrants. Polls attest that anti-Semitism still has currency among about 20 percent of Germans. That figure is not higher than elsewhere in Europe, but Germany is, after all, Germany.


Defusing 'Mein Kampf'


...Although many intellectuals toyed with fascism, their general sympathies were stated in a more negative fashion. That is, they may have become fascists, but only because fascism contained no democratic principles. H. G. Wells (1866-1946), the author of The Time Machine and War of the Worlds, called for a class of governing experts or technocrats. So too did the American critic, Walter Lippmann (1894-1974). D. H. Lawrence believed that democracy was spent force -- a new Caesar was needed. Evelyn Waugh (1903-1966), author of Brideshead Revisited, accepted both Mussolini's Fascists and Franco's right wing dictatorship. A new ideology, Italian fascism appeared after World War One in a country which had clearly been demoralized by war. The nation found itself frustrated and basically left out of the peace negotiations in 1919....


Lecture 9 The Age of Anxiety: Europe in the 1920s (2)


edit on 8/15/2012 by ANOK because: it's a commie takeover Harry



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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At the close of World War One tensions still rode high between countries, trade slowed and unemployment rose. A new form of government was also used, totalitarianism. This form of government means there is only one leader to make decisions and thus they killed or jailed all opponents. Mussolini and Hitler used this form of government after World War One to make their countries world powers. Although Hitler’s Germany and Mussolini’s Italy were both fascist their lives were extremely different....


European History – Hitler Compared To Mussolini


The Rise of Fascism in Italy and Germany

Historians struggle with definitions of fascism because it has no coherent ideology and its form varied from nation to nation. But all fascism was a mixture, to one degree or another, of the following ingredients:

an intense form of nationalism
a professed belief in the virtues of struggle and youth
a fanatical obedience to a charismatic leader
an expressed hatred of socialism and liberalism



...The birthplace of fascism was Italy, which became the first country in Europe to have a fascist government. Italy, though a member of the Triple Alliance with Germany and Austria–Hungary, had originally chosen to remain neutral in World War I. In 1915, Italy entered the war on the side of the Entente in hopes of gaining lands from Austria–Hungary....


The Interwar Years and World War II for AP European History

It is no coincidence that in our present time of economic depression, right-wing ideology is on the rise. It is in these times we must be very vigilant, and beware of the threat of totalitarianism. Look how many Germans were fooled by Hitler! And look how many now are still being fooled.


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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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More on why there was violence in the Spanish civil war/revolution.


Dictatorship in Spain and Portugal: Franco and Salazar

In both countries, Western-style parliamentary governments faced opposition from the Church, the army, and large landowners. In 1926, army officers overthrew the Portuguese republic that had been created in 1910, and gradually Antonio de Oliveira Salazar, an economics professor, became dictator.

In Spain, antimonarchist parties won the election of 1931 and King Alphonso XIII fled as the new Spanish Republic was set up. When a socialist cartel won the election of 1936, General Francisco Franco led a revolt against the Republic from Spanish Morocco, plunging Spain into a bloody civil war. Franco received support from the Spanish monarchy and Church, while Germany and Italy sent money and equipment. The Republic was defended by brigades of volunteers from around the world (famous writers George Orwell and Ernest Hemingway were among them), and eventually received aid from the Soviet Union. The technological might provided by the Germans allowed Franco's forces to overwhelm the defenders of the Republic. Pablo Picasso's 25-foot-long mural Guernica (1937), depicting the bombing of the town of Guernica by German planes in 1937, poignantly illustrated the nature of the mismatch. By 1939, Franco ruled Spain as a dictator.


The Interwar Years and World War II for AP European History

The Spanish people had finally put in place a 'socialist' government, when Franco attempted his military takeover.
What were the people supposed to do? What would you do if someone in our military attempted to take power and put a totalitarian dictatorship in place? Forget all the political rhetoric, be honest, would you not fight against it? Of course you would, you just simply have your definitions, and history, a little confused. The right is the establishment, totalitarian authority, the left is liberty and of the people.

Just don't get confused with the states modern use of left and right. There is no left-wing in government. Left and right now are just used to divide and confuse. Liberalism is not socialism, and is right of center. The original liberals were conservatives like Winston Churchill, not socialists. Socialists despised liberals. Most people who call themselves socialists these days are liberals.


"Liberalism is not Socialism, and never will be. There is a great gulf fixed. It is not a gulf of method, it is a gulf of principle. [...] Socialism seeks to pull down wealth. Liberalism seeks to raise up poverty. Socialism would destroy private interests; Liberalism would preserve private interests in the only way in which they can be safely and justly preserved, namely by reconciling them with public right. Socialism would kill enterprise; Liberalism would rescue enterprise from the trammels of privilege and preference [...] Socialism exalts the rule; Liberalism exalts the man. Socialism attacks capital; Liberalism attacks monopoly." Winston Churchill


Liberalism supports capitalism, but with a social safety net. Socialism is anti-capitalist, and supports worker ownership.



posted on Sep, 24 2012 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK
More on why there was violence in the Spanish civil war/revolution.
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BS, and you know it ANOK... The violence during the RED TERROR happened because socialists, communists, and the left in general decided to murder innocent people off the streets, including clergy... In two months your mates murdered tens of thousands of people for being religious, or capitalist... That was a MASSACRE what YOUR people did, and you have even glorified what your mates did...
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posted on Sep, 24 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by ANOK
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Liberalism supports capitalism, but with a social safety net. Socialism is anti-capitalist, and supports worker ownership.




Riiiight, like EVERY nation that has fully embraced socialism/communism has ever done right ANOK?...

Take off those sunglasses old timer...



posted on Sep, 24 2012 @ 07:10 AM
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If any revolution in USA it's going to be a fascist one.

In the minds of americans the americans dream is still alive.
As well as McCarthyism - the idea that socialism is the very opposite of that dream.
You can only hope for a small bit of social democracy in a big pile of stinking capitalist politics.
The rich in USA will simply never accept social responsibility. Not even when it serves their own long term interests.



posted on Sep, 24 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by ANOK
More on why there was violence in the Spanish civil war/revolution.
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BS, and you know it ANOK... The violence during the RED TERROR happened because socialists, communists, and the left in general decided to murder innocent people off the streets, including clergy... In two months your mates murdered tens of thousands of people for being religious, or capitalist... That was a MASSACRE what YOUR people did, and you have even glorified what your mates did...
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Matched by the mass-murders committed by the Nationalist (read: Fascist) side as well.



posted on Jun, 5 2021 @ 09:26 PM
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originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

Matched by the mass-murders committed by the Nationalist (read: Fascist) side as well.


For crying aloud nationalism is not right-wing... Plenty of left-wing dictatorships are nationalistic. Cuba is nationalistic, so is China, North Korea, so was the former Soviet Union, so is Venezuela etc...



posted on Jun, 5 2021 @ 09:44 PM
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a reply to: Summerian

Social democracy is what turned Germany fascist... Social democracy, and democracy is how far left dictatorships take control over nations.


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One of the key functions of the socialist government, in Lenin's view, was guaranteeing democracy for the working people.
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www.marxists.org...

The reason why Americans have been led to believe the U.S. is a democracy, which is not, is for this very purpose. To install socialism/communism.

Many of the U.S. Founding fathers warned Americans about "democracy."



Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.
John Adams
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Between a balanced republic and a democracy, the difference is like that between order and chaos.
John Marshall

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Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths -Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would at the same time be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.”

James Madison, , Federalist No. 10, “The Utility of the Union as a Safeguard Against Domestic Faction and Insurrection (continued),” Daily Advertiser, November 22, 1787
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thefederalistpapers.org...


Alexander Hamilton, on Democracy, Speech in New York, urging ratification of the U.S. Constitution (June 21, 1788)

By Steve Straub
Published March 30, 2011 at 7:52pm

It has been observed that a pure democracy if it were practicable would be the most perfect government. Experience has proved that no position is more false than this. The ancient democracies in which the people themselves deliberated never possessed one good feature of government. Their very character was tyranny; their figure deformity.

thefederalistpapers.org... 21-1788



The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy was the most unstable, fluctuating and short-lived.
John Quincy Adams

americastands.govictory.com...

Not Founding Fathers, but Americans and others who knew the truth about democracy.


Democracy is four wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Ambrose Bierce

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The minority is sometimes right; the majority always wrong.

George Bernard Shaw

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The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

Winston Churchill.

www.brainyquote.com...


[ “Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.”

― H.L. Mencken, Notes on Democracy

www.goodreads.com...





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posted on Jun, 5 2021 @ 11:09 PM
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a reply to: ANOK

Socialism, any form of it, is not "right-wing."

That's the dumbest claim you could ever make.

hitler and Mussolini were both SOCIALISTS... They just had their own idea of what the best form of SOCIALISM should exist...

hitler invited communists to join the ranks of the national socialists. hitler/the nazis also murdered hundreds of SA's officers that were a threat to hitler. Socialists and communists always fight between each other when there is no common enemy to fight.

The castro brothers murdered many socialists whom saw that communists were being invited into the "socialist revolution.'

Stalin sent several killers to murder Trotsky, nuntil he was murdered in Mexico by Stalin's assassins.

The nazis were very left-wing. To this day if you read tthe policies that real nazis want, they are all left-wing/socialist.



Animal welfare in Nazi Germany
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There was widespread support for animal welfare in Nazi Germany[1] among the country's leadership. Adolf Hitler and his top officials took a variety of measures to ensure animals were protected.[2] Many Nazi leaders, including Hitler and Hermann Göring, were supporters of animal rights and conservation. Several Nazis were environmentalists, and species protection and animal welfare were significant issues in the Nazi regime.[3] Heinrich Himmler made an effort to ban the hunting of animals.[4] Göring was a professed animal lover and conservationist,[5] who, on instructions from Hitler, committed Germans who violated Nazi animal welfare laws to concentration camps. In his private diaries, Nazi Propaganda Minister Joseph Goebbels described Hitler as a vegetarian whose hatred of the Jewish and Christian religions in large part stemmed from the ethical distinction these faiths drew between the value of humans and the value of other animals; Goebbels also mentions that Hitler planned to ban slaughterhouses in the German Reich following the conclusion of World War II.
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en.wikipedia.org...


Killing Humans is okay, but don’t boil a lobster-Nazi animal welfare.
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On November 24, 1933, Nazi Germany enacted another law called Reichstierschutzgesetz (Reich Animal Protection Act), for protection of animals. This law listed many prohibitions against the use of animals, including their use for filmmaking and other public events causing pain or damage to health, feeding fowls forcefully and tearing out the thighs of living frogs. The two principals (Ministerialräte) of the German Ministry of the Interior, Clemens Giese and Waldemar Kahler, who were responsible for drafting the legislative text,wrote in their juridical comment from 1939, that by the law the animal was to be “protected for itself” (“um seiner selbst willen geschützt”), and made “an object of protection going far beyond the hitherto existing law”
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dirkdeklein.net...


Thanks to Hitler, hunting with hounds is still verboten
The Fuhrer, a vegetarian, was the pioneer of hunting bans. His draconian laws were announced in Germany on July 3, 1934, on the grounds that hunting with hounds was 'unsporting'. His odd legacy lives on, report David Harrison and Tony Paterson.
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Professor Kershaw said that there was "a curiously ethical side" to the Nazis reforms. "The Nazis wanted a clean kill and felt that it was wrong to cause unnecessary suffering to the animal being hunted," he said.

"So the new laws banned all field sports that involved training and using animals to kill game and vermin. There was a belief that if you put an animal through unnecessary torture you were somehow injuring the feelings of the German nation."

The official Nazi biography, which was written by Erich Gritzbach, says: "Goering is a fanatical friend of animals. He says: 'Whoever tortures animals violates the instincts of the German people.'
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www.telegraph.co.uk...


Abortion in Germany - Wikipedia
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Legalization of abortion was first widely discussed in Germany during the early 20th century. When Germany became a country in 1871, section 218 of the Constitution outlawed abortion, requiring a penal term for both the woman and the doctor involved. During the Weimar Republic, such discussion led to a reduction in the maximum penalty for abortion, and in 1926 a court's decision legalized abortion in cases of grave danger to the life of the mother. Nazi Germany's eugenics laws liberalized abortion for both Aryan and non-Aryan women. Aryan women could obtain an abortion simply by demonstrating that either parent had an hereditary defect, or that the child would be born with a congenital defect. Non-Aryan women were "encouraged" to utilize contraception and abortion in order to reduce their populations.[2][citation needed]

In Nazi Germany, the penalties for abortion were increased again. In 1943, providing an abortion to an Aryan woman became a capital offense. Abortion was permitted if the fetus was deformed or disabled.
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The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
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Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


Hitler and the Nazis were not Right-wing.


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posted on Jun, 5 2021 @ 11:12 PM
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Berlin, emerged suddenly as the most culturally innovative of all the capital cities of Europe, second only to Paris.xx William Shirer speaks of most Germans during this period as being democratic, liberal, or even pacifist.xxi
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www.uffl.org...


William L. Shirer
William Lawrence Shirer was an American journalist and war correspondent. He wrote The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich, a history of Nazi Germany that has been read by many and cited in scholarly works for more than 50 years.
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After all, that’s exactly why we call ourselves National Socialists! We want to start by implementing socialism in our nation among our Volk! It is not until the individual nations are socialist that they can address themselves to international socialism.

Adolf Hitler as quoted by Otto Wagener in Hitler—Memoirs of a Confidant, editor, Henry Ashby Turner, Jr., Yale University Press (1985) p. 288

What the world did not deem possible the German people have achieved…. It is already war history how the German Armies defeated the legions of capitalism and plutocracy. After forty-five days this campaign in the West was equally and emphatically terminated.

“Adolf Hitler’s Order of the Day Calling for Invasion of Yugoslavia and Greece,” Berlin, (April 6, 1941), New York Times, April 7, 1941

To put it quite clearly: we have an economic programme. Point No. 13 in that programme demands the nationalisation of all public companies, in other words socialisation, or what is known here as socialism. … the basic principle of my Party’s economic programme should be made perfectly clear and that is the principle of authority… the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners. If you say that the bourgeoisie is tearing its hair over the question of private property, that does not affect me in the least. Does the bourgeoisie expect some consideration from me?… Today’s bourgeoisie is rotten to the core; it has no ideals any more; all it wants to do is earn money and so it does me what damage it can. The bourgeois press does me damage too and would like to consign me and my movement to the devil.

Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler, 4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 31-33. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 , published by Chatto & Windus in 1971

I will tolerate no opposition. We recognize only subordination – authority downwards and responsibility upwards. You just tell the German bourgeoisie that I shall be finished with them far quicker than I shall with marxism... When once the conservative forces in Germany realize that only I and my party can win the German proletariat over to the State and that no parliamentary games can be played with marxist parties, then Germany will be saved for all time, then we can found a German Peoples State.

Hitler's interview with Richard Breiting, 1931, published in Edouard Calic, ed., “First Interview with Hitler,4 May 1931,” Secret Conversations with Hitler: The Two Newly-Discovered 1931 Interviews, New York: John Day Co., 1971, pp. 36-37. Also published under the title Unmasked: Two Confidential Interviews with Hitler in 1931 published by Chatto & Windus in 1971

I have learned a great deal from Marxism as I do not hesitate to admit… The difference between them and myself is that I have really put into practice what these peddlers and pen pushers have timidly begun. The whole of National Socialism is based on it… National Socialism is what Marxism might have been if it could have broken its absurd and artificial ties with a democratic order.

As quoted in The Voice of Destruction, Hermann Rauschning, New York, NY, G.P. Putnam’s Sons (1940) p. 186, this book is also known as Hitler Speaks
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When we think of Nazi killing, genocide immediately comes to mind, particularly that of "6,000,00 Jews." But they also murdered for reasons other than race or religion. For one, the Nazis slew those who opposed or hindered them, whether actually or potentially. This was why Hitler assassinated hundreds of top Nazi SA's (Sturmabteilung)4 in June and July 1934, who under Ernst Rohm were becoming a strong competitor to the SS (Schutzstaffel); or executed perhaps 5,000 Germans after the 1944 plot on his life and attempted coup d'etat. Indeed, it is why critics, pacifists, conscientious objectors, campus rebels, dissidents, and others throughout the twelve-year history of the regime in Germany, were executed, disappeared, or slowly died in concentration camps. The Nazis thus killed some 288,000 Germans, not counting Jews, homosexuals, and those forcibly "euthanized." If these are included, then the Nazis murdered at least 498,000 Germans, probably 762,000. As shown in table 1.2, this was one out of every hundred Germans.
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posted on Jun, 5 2021 @ 11:16 PM
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How are these policies implemented by hitler and the nazis right-wing? They are all SOCIALIST.



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Therefore we demand:

11. That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.

12. Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people. We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries. (Wealth redistribution)

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.

16. We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.

17. We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.

18. We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
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COMMON GOOD BEFORE INDIVIDUAL GOOD

25. In order to carry out this program we demand: the creation of a strong central authority in the State, the unconditional authority by the political central parliament of the whole State and all its organizations.

The formation of professional committees and of committees representing the several estates of the realm, to ensure that the laws promulgated by the central authority shall be carried out by the federal states.

The leaders of the party undertake to promote the execution of the foregoing points at all costs, if necessary at the sacrifice of their own lives.

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posted on Jun, 5 2021 @ 11:42 PM
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a reply to: ElectricUniverse
You necroed a 9 year old thread to reply to someone who hasn't been on here in 7.

Sad.



posted on Jun, 5 2021 @ 11:46 PM
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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
You necroed a 9 year old thread to reply to someone who hasn't been on here in 7.

Sad.

Ya, kinda weird..too funny



posted on Jun, 6 2021 @ 05:56 AM
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But appropriate nonetheless. Good stuff in here.


originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: ElectricUniverse
You necroed a 9 year old thread to reply to someone who hasn't been on here in 7.

Sad.



posted on Jun, 6 2021 @ 02:07 PM
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a reply to: Halfswede

Meh, same old BS, only a decade older.




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