America On Verge Of Communist Takeover, Says Former Castro Revolutionary

The truth is out there.

reply to post by Tiger5


in essence the government WAS the corporate entity, like in the US, the enterprise spoken of by Olly north during the Iran contra hearings is the corporation of the US.

You can say what you will but ask the animals was right. We don't have capitalism. When a too big to fail corporation is bailed out it is actually done with public money....government money. They are ALL subsidiaries of the enterprise.

In the USSR it was the soviet era princes of industry that formed mafias and gobbled up all former USSR holdings and assets for nothing down. The answer to your question is not what WERE they there but what are they. In short GLOBAL corporatism is the single entity with many faces to compartmentalize damage any one may suffer.

If we let a bad business fail, that would be capitalism since a better one would pop up offering better services and products. If they are all protected under the same umbrella of public money siphoning then they are all part of the same business venture....Like Virgin music and Virgin airlines....all part of the same corporation.

We are not fooled because they have different logos or CEOs. They all work under the same protection of stolen public money from many countries. It is a global threat with its main sugar daddy the US.

play dumb....go ahead. we are not impressed any more. We are not living in a capitalism if all too big to fail ventures are protected by our money. THAT is the truth. In the USSR they had public money being siphoned to the top and that same wealth is what current Russian leadership has to their name.....their corporations now and their former identity as the Russian government. Like what they want to set up in the US......

reply to post by neo96


Cuba might improve if we remove all the trade restrictions with that country, all because they have a different form of government.

reply to post by Evil_Santa


What trade restrictions?

www.washingtonpost.com...

Click here for more information.

here is this .......showing the true hand of global corporatism, in government and without.

The reason why the government set up the corporations of present day Russia is because they all stole public money and wanted to keep that wealth under its new form....corporations. Before they existed as the centralized authority....now, they exist as blameless corporations, with the same stolen wealth, but with the protection of government there. compartmentalized corporatism.

Yeltsinian oligarchs

During the 1990s, once Boris Yeltsin took office, the oligarchs emerged as well-connected entrepreneurs who started from nearly nothing and got rich through participation in the market via connections to the corrupt, but elected, government of Russia during the state's transition to a market-based economy.

The oligarchs became extremely unpopular with the Russian public, and are commonly thought to be the cause of much of the turmoil that plagued the country following the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Guardian described the oligarchs as "about as popular with your average Russian as a man idly burning bundles of £50s outside an orphanage".

Post-Soviet business oligarchs include relatives or close associates of government officials, even government officials themselves, as well as criminal bosses who achieved vast wealth by acquiring state assets very cheaply (or for free) during the privatization process controlled by the Yeltsin government.

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reply to post by Evil_Santa


The Joke is those who defend communism, and make themselves selves out to be "misunderstood" for little helpless victims (Cuba) and just proved a great majority of what Whittle said in that video.

Sanctions, and restrictions is what Americans all know too well we call them laws and regulations here.

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Evil_Santa

 

The Joke is those who defend communism, and make themselves selves out to be "misunderstood" for little helpless victims (Cuba) and just proved a great majority of what Whittle said in that video.

Sanctions, and restrictions is what Americans all know too well we call them laws and regulations

edit on 4-8-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

You should read the post above yours.

For the record i'm a champion of a system that's a happy medium between capitalism and communism, the system called socialism. It protects the citizens from the greed which current plagues our society, while giving it's citizens freedom and liberty in their private lives.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Only in the greatest banana republic in the history of the world would this kind of post be taken seriously, let alone given stars and flags. This is pathetic. The wealth disparity is at such enormous proportions right now, and has been for so long, that if a Communist takeover were to ever happen here, you could only have to look at the "free market investor class" to find your culprits. After all, if there's any semblance of opportunity equity in a society, there won't be a revolution from what it already is to any other form of socioeconomic structure. People don't seek out violent upheaval in their own lives. Definitely not the percentage of people that it takes to actually initiate such a change.

The moneyed class in this country are idiots if they think that they can continue this reckless, self-serving run at our nation's treasury, and they're really stupid if they think that propping this ancient stuffed corpse of a "revolutionary" up as some sort of cautionary icon is going to balance out the ridiculous political and policy agenda that they and their GOP House fools have been nakedly pursuing since losing the WH as a result of equally idiotic policies and political behavior.

No one's even seen a Communist in the 21st Century. Even China has become one of the biggest Capitalist juggernauts on the planet, and they were the only ones who came anywhere near close to trying to be a version of Communism - and failing miserably like everyone else whose ever tried it.

The top 1% might inspire some "thinning of the societal herd" with the crap they're pushing in the face of the rest of the US populous, but it isn't anything that you can blame on Communists. Hell, it does't take a Communist conspiracy to make the average person sick and tired of those whiny little creeps and their hysterical Tea-Bagging snake oil pitchmen. That rightwing fringe and their corporate masters have really used up whatever it was that gave them that 2010 popular uptick, and no one's buying any of this bullsh*t anymore. Changing the pitchman isn't going to change how stupid the pitch has proven itself to be.

Christ. The GOP has even resorted to violating federal voting law in their efforts to prevent an election blood bath this fall. They know that they blew it, and it's their own damn fault for thinking that the American voter is an idiot.

reply to post by NorEaster


THANK YOU......

Originally posted by SG-17
If this is true (and I severely doubt it) I would have to say ABOUT DAMN TIME.

be careful what you wish for their pal.....

Originally posted by AnarchysAngel
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

 

Whoops! Turns out right wing is Nazi and left wing is commy. Not a very good choice is it?

I believe the country is on the verge of extreme right wing facist takeover.

edit on 4-8-2012 by AnarchysAngel because: (no reason given)

I wouldn't get TOO worried.... As someone who IS on the far right by most people's definition, I can say I was as against Bush as anyone by about 2006...and my lingering faith in Government somehow having information or intelligence data we didn't is ALL that carried the support that far. Won't be making that little mistake again, I'll tell ya.

The key though, I sure as hell won't stand for a radical right regime any more than I'm standing well for this Far left socialist based warp into..Obamaism or whatever you'd call this melding of systems he's doing. A regular Copperfield with terrible results, he seems to be.

Romney isn't radical right anyway. Not really. Mormons don't represent that extreme wing. It might piss some folks off but so be it. The extreme radical wing we'd need to worry about would be the Extreme Baptists (and I mean the ones even the average Baptist is a little uncomfortable around) and Pentecostal. See a runner for the White House claiming those backgrounds and extreme religious right theology is on it's way.

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

The extreme radical wing we'd need to worry about would be the Extreme Baptists (and I mean the ones even the average Baptist is a little uncomfortable around) and Pentecostal. See a runner for the White House claiming those backgrounds and extreme religious right theology is on it's way.

I believe what you're referring to is Dominion Theology/Kingdom Now. It was always a minority stance (at least back in the 80s/90s when I was still involved in the Pentecostal churches I was raised in). However, it seems that it has been gaining steadily among Pentecostals and more mainstream Baptists in recent years.

Originally posted by SG-17

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by SG-17
If this is true (and I severely doubt it) I would have to say ABOUT DAMN TIME.

I see, so you are one of them who has accepted the indoctrination fully... nice knowing you...

BTW, if you like socialism/communism so much why haven't you moved to a country that has fully embraced it instead of wanting another nation to fall into another leftwinger dictatorship?...

edit on 3-8-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

Because there haven't been any Communist countries.

There have only been Leninist, Stalinist, Maoist, Juche, and Castrian governments who march under the banner of Communism but aren't true communists in the slightest. The day that there is a True Communist nations, I'd gladly move there, for it would be a utopia by definition.

You gotta love the way the "communist" based on the same power pyramid (as capitalism) and as parasitic on the citizens as the capitalistic system have given communism a bad name when it is the power pyramid with the twist that it is the poleticians with the power/money instead of singular citizens having all the power/money.

As long as the power pyramid is there and people are taking resources without putting in the effort of creating them then it is not communism. I have no trouble with people getting different wages depending on performance but I do have a problem with the pyramid scheme where the ones with money can shift the systems so that we becomes slave under debt even when we do not consume excesivly.

But the system will destroy itself under it's own greed anyway so all we have to do is stand back and watch the fireworks.

Communist Cuba is much more in danger
of an impending capitalist American takeover.
And the citizens are hoping it happens soon.

As are classic car collectors.

**oh and Fantastic post above NorEastern !
Brilliant !

Looks like the OP is right on target. Thanks for opening some eyes. S&F's to you sir:
Here's the proof.

theobamafile.com...

Appears we have a clear choice for president. An avowed Communist, or a successful American.
Simple as that. Are we going to have an America or Amerika

Originally posted by neo96
I said has anyone picked up all their belongings and moved to the great communist world and they haven't.

Lee Harvey Oswald did, but it did not go too well for him. I'm pretty sure there were and there still are others.

reply to post by nightstalker46


so much of that is just pure BS...

pick up a history book or take a basic economics class before you start claiming Obama is a marxist... just absurd.

Originally posted by WalterRatlos

Originally posted by neo96
I said has anyone picked up all their belongings and moved to the great communist world and they haven't.

Lee Harvey Oswald did, but it did not go too well for him. I'm pretty sure there were and there still are others.

He wasn't the only one but seeing that most americans that moved to soviet Russia ended up in prison and/or mass graves I can understand why they would rather stay home and bring communism to the USA.

Wowzers. I don't quite know where to start on this thread. What's very clear is a vast majority of posters (including the OP), don't know the difference between ideologies.

Also to add, you cannot base an ideology on such extreme figures, such as Hitler and Stalin. Their actions were in some cases, in exact opposition to the very ideologies they professed. You cannot deny the Lenin brand of communism was vastly different to the monster that flourished under Stalin and later generations, in an exploitative totalitarian regime. Totalitarian Communism is bad. Just like Totalitarian national Socialism or Totalitarian Capitalism.

As for the arguments of individualism versus collectivism, well, that is totally subjective upon what the person whom makes the argument bases their core values on. It can be argued that people in an institutional form of Communism are individuals, just as much that people in an institutional form of Capitalism are part of the collective. Like I say, it is subjective to whom ever it concerns.

It seems to me, that when looking at the facts, the most successful and productive nation states are those that integrate policy and ideology from 'opposing' ideologies. E.g USA is a Capitalist country with a healthy dose of Socialism, and China is a Communist state with a healthy dose of Capitalism.

Note, none of those states are now Totalitarian. Totalitarian = bad (historically proven), hence why Democracy is the most important foundation upon which a Nation should build it's Ideology.