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Originally posted by BIHOTZ
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
yes but we are going to violate our highest law for vandalism.....yeah....that is not just an excuse to create a precedent to arrest people for reading........in a DEMOCRACY..
I don't care if they took a dump on Obama´s head.....they can't have their homes invaded for a book they may have..
That is just validation of a totalitarian state trying to push its way through our constitution like a hole in our collective heads.
No, this is wrong. They committed a minor crime....I don't care. Even if they found a quote on a wall.....what if they just remembered it, or their friend read it to them and they just knew it.....but happen to have a book of quotes that contains it.....too many nonsensical things to consider...
The fact is people justifying this are really stretching the imagination to make these KIDS criminals for doing what even their own kids might have done....vandalism,,....pfft.
This is completely undemocratic and does not belong in our country.....no matter the fake threat you throw at it. We are not going to let you do whatever you want under the fake pretense of security. That worked for Hitler and fox news viewers after 9/11.....you lost so much support for going too far that you have to really push to do anything like that again,...
We will push back....STOP....this is our country. Don't get carried away.....or you run the risk of looking like a traitor.
We are a democratic people...like it or not. You will NOT ERASE hundreds of years of mentality because some kids write on walls.....things MOST people feel now a day's anyways thanks to the heavy hand of nonsense you employ.
You are really pushing it......too far. You validate the stance against you with every retarded action you take and every retarded defense of said actions you preach.
edit on 5-8-2012 by BIHOTZ because: (no reason given)
You are right we are not. We are arresting them for vandalism. The literature is evidence in a vandalism case. They are not being arrested for the literature. Nowhere does any article state that they are.
Again....unless they committed an assault on a person....I don't see how you can justify spending thousands of dollars on vandalism yet ignore child pornography and weapons smuggling because of a short budget....unless you want to send a message....like we own you......
You're right, they would be invaded to be arrested for assault and battery on Obama. Now if they had no idea who the perp was and the perp was quoting from a certain book while taking said dump, then finding that book in the perps house is relevant. The book itself is irellevant, it is only made relevant from the context of the crime.
so it was on the warrant....it should not be there....really the FBI should not be wasting our limited resources on kids being kids....that is for local authorities and their parents....not big bad federal agents. If that makes sense to spend thousands of dollars instead of buying a can of paint.....what is the message you send? that you are God....?....that makes sense.....instill fear in your people and then call us over dramatic when we react to your heavy hand....what led them to this persons house was the billions of dollars in domestic spying....thats what....tough guy.
Something led them to this persons house, there is obviously other evidence. The literature is one piece of the case, not the entire thing. Just like the literature was one piece of the search warrant, not the whole search warrant. The only nonsensical thing is your reaction.
so the FBI would be called in for a night of drunken fun, or because they try to get into a frat house and have to steal a mascot or do some other dumb thing....they must love you..legal ramifications....I would ground them and talk to them...not be a dumbass who shows no parental skills when dealing with teenagers. I am not defending their actions....I just don't think you have much to do with graffiti Mr., federal agent....you need to look for real criminals instead of bitching about small budgets that limit your ability to do your job.....unless you went from organized crime to beautification police...
So you are now justifying their criminal acts? Awesome example. No wonder kids commit such crimes, they have people like you justifying their behavior. I never vandalized anyone, and my kids better not too. If they do they will suffer the legal ramifications, and I won't justify bad behavior.
Who the hell said that a persons preference in literature is evidence of anything.....it is not even presentable in court....it proves nothing past the fact that they read something...not that it inspired them to do anything....and you work in within the law? lol. nice childish come back...no you don't win....the constitution protects their right to have that and the satanic bible if they wish....freedom to print and distribute.....no not to vandalize, but hell that is hardly a national threat...unless you are that scared of spray paint.....
I don't know where to begin with this. You make assertions with no support. So I suppose I will do the same. This is completely Democratic. I win? Now that I win, I will doubly win by actually supporting my position. They used evidence to obtain a search warrant and searched the house legally, just like a Democracy.
What other crimes are you now in support of people committing without repercussions? Just wondering so I know what to do to your property, after I vandalize it, because hey it's no big deal. So tell me, what else can I get away with?
so you would hunt down teenagers with federal resources, for spray paint....and somehow think you do us a service....no laws are ok to break...especially those protecting their right to read things you don't agree with. jerk.
Yep, I validate that if I ever vandalize someone's property I should be hunted down. Just like everyone who vandalized my property I expect to be hunted down. Again, make sure you let me know what other laws it's ok to break.
black-clad May Day demonstrators marauded through the shopping district, smashing plate glass windows at banks and retail outlets, spray-painting cars and slashing tires.
But federal court records indicate authorities are looking into an "organized 'black block' of anarchists" who marched all in black, carried red flags on sticks and sticks with screws or bolts on the ends and broke out windows of the William Kenzo Nakamura U.S. Courthouse in Seattle on May Day.
Originally posted by BIHOTZ
reply to post by OccamsRazor04
and you are a disgusting apologist for domestic terrorism.....
Who did they kill?
who did they assault?
yeah, organized crime my ass,......you just cant admit when you are wrong....so what, you are not humble enough to do so? tough guy....
I will REPEAT myself, I never advocated their actions or condone them. Again...ALL LAW SHOULD BE RESPECTED....especially the US constitution...our highest contract of law....something you conveniently overturn when it fits you like organized crime does when it justifies itself by the perceived good it does....
I would ground them and talk to them
the FBI should not be wasting our limited resources on kids being kids
If you don't see that is condoning their behavior then I can't help you. I have proved every single thing you said wrong, every lie you tell has been exposed. Vandalism is not spray painting, they destroyed property, smashed windows, broke into stores, and it was an ORGANISED event called May Day. You have been exposed, have a good day.