The Problem with Greer

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posted on Aug, 18 2012 @ 09:44 PM
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By the way that is the tip of the iceberg, just too much to share. Even had them protect me while driving long distance. And then after returning from the trip, was in the shower, resumed contact, went through the portal to a council meeting in a place, planet that I recognized in my soul. Afterwards when I went outside, there was some blue spirals in the sky, laying on its side. Can't tell you all planets are natural, some are, some are just as wonderful as natural but they're more like giant crafts. Anyway. Its up to people to search more, not just ET things, just knock on your own soul to deprogram and wake up and Love Love Love, turn this world around.


Dr. Steven Greer Explains Consciousness and Meditation (HQ) Part 4
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posted on Aug, 18 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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Unity, I like you, but if you had a child that had a teacher that kept making HUGE promises like,"Class, on Friday we're gonna take a field trip to Disney World" and "Class on Tuesday we're all gonna take a spaceship ride to the moon!" and yet NEVER delivered on those promises how would you feel?

That's what Greer does to our brothers & sisters who long for truth about the UFO phenomenon. He BS's them over and over.

Steven Greer never runs out of promises that he doesn't keep. It's immoral & sociopathic. Nothing ever seems to work out, poor guy:


On February 11, 2007 in Los Angeles, Greer announced that he was working with a G7 country on disclosing information to the public about extraterrestrials.

There is a major country in the world - G7 Country - that has decided to do this with us and has invited us to become the primary contactee to precipitate an event with these extraterrestrial vehicles with the full support of their air force, space command, everything, land and meet the leadership of this country with us facilitating this so that this can then be proximally disclosed to the world, and that's what we are doing eminent - what we are working on eminently.
—Dr. Steven M. Greer
ufology.wikidot.com...


And yet another insider who Greer never manages to get to come forward. He's got a ton of those:


On May 9, 2006 in Toronto, Greer said that SETI had made contact with extraterrestrials, and that the signals were being jammed by either the NSA or NRO.

We have confirmation - and I'm not going to give the name yet because we are trying to coax this guy out of the closet - but one of the senior most people in the SETI project, which is the Carl Sagan Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence Effort, has confirmed to the Disclosure Project, this is one of the senior most people, that they have received multiple extraterrestrial signals … but that now they are getting external human, probably NRO (National Reconnaissance Office) or NSA jamming of those signals and they are getting very frustrated.

The question is why hasn't the SETI project, funded by Paul Allen who's the co-founder of Microsoft, come forward with this information? I'm a little uncomfortable even mentioning this, except for the fact that the public needs to know that this effort, which has received a great deal of mainstream media attention, has actually confirmed to us from two inside sources that they have received extraterrestrial signals and have confirmed them as being extraterrestrial and that they have become increasing in frequency.
—Dr. Steven M. Greer
ufology.wikidot.com...


If you love folk as much as you seem to and proclaim, you would take a hard look at Greer and not vouch for him.

Peace.



posted on Aug, 18 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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I'm thinking Greer can't even sit in full lotus.

What a fake.

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by fulllotusqigong
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I'm thinking Greer can't even sit in full lotus.


That precludes him from being a CIA/Freemason, does it not?


fulllotusqigong remarked: "Professor Hugh B. Urban states that the highest level of Freemasonry is to sit in full lotus yoga position as pyramid power to create the All-Seeing Eye."



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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UM-WSH?



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 12:32 AM
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Dru and others were bang on. Greer obviously gets his groups in a highly suggestive hypnotic state and then leads them to see invisible spaceships and stuff. How does one see an invisible spaceship? By using "soft eyes" it appears. Soft Eyes = Squinting I reckon:


After conducting a Puja, the group was shown the shimmering outline of several 100ft discs materializing in the field only a few hundred feet from us. We had to use “soft eyes” to see them.
www.newageu.com...

You Are Getting Veeeery Sleeeepy


What is a CTS facilitator?
CTS = Coherent Thought Sequencing, a technique to strengthen telepathic 'signal' message….CTS is the practice of having multiple people chant information useful to the current agenda, do it so much that the individuals slip into a semi-trance like state, bringing all the minds together as one thought-fabrique which strengthens the empathy between the psi-target and the CTS community. Is that clear?
ufos.tribe.net...


Dr Greer led an emotional prayer to Gaia apologizing for the way man behaves in relation to the planet; yet Dr Greer asked for forgiveness to those associated with the Majestic control group, praying that they will see the light. This was followed by a meditation which helped the group enter a slightly altered state of mind.
www.newageu.com...

Listen Closely to the Soundddd of My Tones


Lights, water, tape recorders cameras, all our assorted equipment lay on the ground within easy reach. As was our custom we took turns leading the meditation, or we played one of Dr. Greer’s inspiring tapes.

We then listened to anomalous tones that were recorded in a crop circle. We sat quietly meditating  for about 40 minutes and we conducted thought projection in the manner prescribed by Steven Greer’s contact protocols.

As I listened to the crop circle tones I became more and more relaxcd. I was surrounded by my team. We were all meditating together. It felt secure. Each member was personally trained by Dr. Greer. As the result of months of demanding fieldwork a high level  unity had been forged between all members of the team.

I went deeper and deeper into the meditative state.

I wondered what was the significance of the chest pressure that I had experienced during meditation. One member of the team suggested that it was might have been my heart chakra opening up.
www.contactunderground.com...

Your Wallet Is Getting Very Heavy. You Feel It Getting Lighter


From a CSETI Event Flyer:
You are invited to attend a special week with Dr. Steven Greer and the senior CSETI Contact Team to make contact with ET civilizations. This week long intensive is limited to ONLY 15 registrants and provides for an intensive training program with Dr. Greer and the CSETI Contact Team. It is also a true expedition, where each night we will go out under the stars for 4-5 hours to make Contact using the very effective CSETI CE-5 Contact Protocols.

During this intensive training program you will learn:
• How to make Contact with ET civilizations using the CSETI CE-5 protocols and how to really become an Ambassador to the Universe

• Advanced training in mantra meditation, and a very advanced course in the ancient Sanskrit Vedas

• Advanced techniques of Remote Viewing, Precognition and the Science of Consciousness

• The Effects of the Sanskrit Puja as we make sacred the place for Contact using this ancient Vedic Ceremony

• An update on world-wide Disclosure Project developments by Dr. Greer and the progress being made with leaders around the world

• An in depth review of New Energy technologies, including free energy from the zero point field, anti-gravity and how the World can be transformed with these new sciences

• A deep understanding of the next great cycle on Earth: One of Universal Peace, Free Energy, Abundance and Enlightenment through higher states of Consciousness

• How to set up your own Contact Team in your local area to continue to make Contact with ET visitors to Earth!

www.disclosureproject.org...

A lot more there, especially of note is the tremendous amount of literature and material for $ale.

When I Snap My Fingers You Will Awake and Immediately Book Next Years Trip!




posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 12:35 AM
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Hugh B. Urban is referring to French Freemasonry.

Greer is a con-man riding the wave of CIA disinformation which is Freemasonic.

Of course sitting in full lotus is just the start of the real alchemical training.

A real energy master sits in full lotus for one month non-stop with no sleep the whole time and next to no water and no food.

This is not done in the West because real alchemy was lost in the West at the time of Plato. peterkingsley.com... exposes those lose of the real Pythagorean Logos teachings.

So the French -- being more inclined to esoteric studies -- dabble in Freemasonry. Urban does give any more details but he's comparing elite secret societies. here

For the real energy master training -- read this on Shaolin Master Yau lighting things on fire using the eyes and testing that it is real

On qigong master Yan Xin doing a mass healing that causes astral travel

On Master Zhang training Chunyi Lin doing a month of non-stop full lotus with no sleep in a cave in China

So that's the real energy training. The Freemasons can try but their fundamental philosophy is incorrect so even if some can sit in full lotus the Freemason philosophy is going to limit their success.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Fascinating stories. Thanks for your opinions about Greer, I am certain he would be happy with your ecstatic support.

In effect, in a few short paragraphs, you have undone the entirety of the intent of this thread which was surreptitiously and conspiratorially planned, then executed {to failure}, to massacre the reputation of Dr. Steven Greer.

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Unity_99

Stay with an open mind and an open heart.


And a very open wallet!

Remember, it's Greer were talking about here!



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Everywhen
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Fascinating stories. Thanks for your opinions about Greer, I am certain he would be happy with your ecstatic support.

In effect, in a few short paragraphs, you have undone the entirety of the intent of this thread which was surreptitiously and conspiratorially planned, then executed {to failure}, to massacre the reputation of Dr. Steven Greer.

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Not to worry, there are hundreds of other people that these crudes are jealous of.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by WhamBam
Not to worry, there are hundreds of other people that these crudes are jealous of.

We're not jealous WhimBam, we care. We care enough to document our assertions.

You, on the other hand, only counter with crude and not very-well constructed slams.

See the difference: We have evidence that we put out there for anyone who cares to, to consider.

You gripe and moan and offer NOTHING else.


Evidence trumps the pathetic whining of a star-struck fanboy.

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 08:30 PM
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I did find out the "Hoax Bin" issue on Greer. I know Druscilla's thread on Greer got moved there, and immediately the Greer-o-phytes jumped on it suggesting her THREAD was the Hoax, thus they felt all smug and vindicated.

That wasn't true at all, of course. The issue was the inclusion of some hoax material created by others as an example to help her document her case.

Then one of OUR erstwhile Greer-o-phytes remembered that Greer threads were once ALL relegated to the hoax bin, this from an account that started a few days ago. (Sock puppet, cough!)

It turns out several years ago ATS's Skeptic Overlord asked for a vote of the membership on what ought to be done with Greer. The overwhelming response back then was that he was a hoax, therefore all Greer threads needed to be in the Hoax Bin. THAT was the reason for the action. The funny and utterly ridiculous thing was that the Greer-o-phytes tried to turn this decision to their advantage, when the real issue was exactly the opposite. As usual, they were completely duped.

Read Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge this weekend. Yowzaa and Halalluja Space Borthers! Praise the Lord.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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dble post?
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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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Why did you steal Isaac Koi's avatar?



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by freelance_zenarchist
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Why did you steal Isaac Koi's avatar?


I asked him that several days ago and he chose not to answer. Alas, now he won't be able to until he reincarnates. I didn't do it, I swear!



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 02:24 PM
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OK. Back to Greer. As The Gut and Torsion know I started a thread asking for help on the severed finger story, and lo and behold, both these guys nailed it. I did not want to initially give away the fact that this was a Greer story because I knew darned well I had heard it about someone else, which turns out to be Delatosso and the S4 stuff. Greer has a similar story, and it goes like this:


A covert ops guy I know in Arizona acquired the Carp tape, where what appears to be an alien reproduction vehicle or an actual ET craft went out of control and crash-landed near a military facility in Canada

During the retrieval operation, one of the special teams involved filmed the landed craft. The person who made this film was doing it clandestinely; it’s a very shaky film. I have it. It came to me with some photographs of what looked like some ET life forms.

This film and the man who shot it made its way to a person who is black ops but presents himself as a concerned UFO researcher and digital image analyst. So he gave this person who made the film a ‘safe house’ on his ranch in Arizona. Well, I’m not sure it was a safe house at all. One day this ‘protector’ came back out to the ranch—and hammered to the mailbox of the ranch was a baggy with a finger in it., with a little piece of paper that said, “TWEP”—terminate with extreme prejudice. They never found this person, and it is presumed that he was killed. The owner of the ranch told me this story.


Source is the book, "Hidden Truth; forbidden knowledge" by Greer. Crozet, VA: Crossing Point Books, 2006, ISBN: 978-0-967-32382-4, p. 194. It's not online so I can't link you to it.

To me, Greer's story has some internal inconsistencies. It doesn't make a tremendous amount of sense to me, but it certainly is a much, much different story that the one told by Delatosso. Yet the guts of it, the finger in a baggie with TWEP, is precisely the same. I believe Greer lifted the story he heard back in 1991.

Greer does the same kind of thing other places, too, which we'll talk about eventually. Stories that have been in the UFO literature for years wind up with a twist--and the involvement of Greer--later on.
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posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Over on Robert Sheaffer's Bad UFOs he reports about Greer's April claim to have been offered $2 BILLION to walk away from UFOs and stay silent.


Alien technology, he says, offers us free energy so that we won't need oil or coal any more. However, this is being opposed by the greedy oil companies, and the military-industrial complex. Greer said that he was offered a bribe of $2 BILLION by the conspirators to stop investigating UFOs, which he bravely and selflessly declined. (Me, I'd sell out for a mere two million, but then I don't make as much money as doctors do). He said the only reason the conspirators had not yet killed him is because he is too well-known. He accused the conspirators of "murder" in the cancer death of his friend Sheri Adamiak, and in the non-fatal cancers of other researchers, including his own.


I can't find another source for the claim so it is what it is and wouldn't surprise me at all. What does surprise me is Sheaffer's price. I'd walk away from the subject for a fraction of that!



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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A covert ops guy I know in Arizona acquired the Carp tape, where what appears to be an alien reproduction vehicle or an actual ET craft went out of control and crash-landed near a military facility in Canada


The Carp tape mentioned (and modified) by Greer most will know as the Guardian video. Rather unremarkable footage showing what is alleged to be a landed flying saucer.

Ironically, the video cassette had a deliberate fingerprint inked on the label. Perhaps Greer, tangled in his web of lies, confused the Guardian's single fingerprint with Dilettoso's single severed finger story.



I guess he'll be splicing that stunning piece of evidence into Sirius, too!



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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There's a show of SDI where Bruce-Knapp and the guys are chuckling about Bruce Maccabee supporting that footage.

On the theft borrowing other people's stuff angle, John Velez recently commented about Greer taking video footage from a Scottish researcher's hotel room. This would be back when the Starlight Team were in Scotland vectoring in the big black triangle craft circa 92-94.

It's disheartening to think our alleged visitors (free energy and all) are as susceptible to flashing lights as kittens on You Tube.



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:58 PM
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Well, then. I would hazard a guess that the "This film and the man who shot it made its way to a person who is black ops but presents himself as a concerned UFO researcher and digital image analyst." fits the description of Bruce Maccabee. He is a "concerned UFO researcher" and a "digital image analyst," but he lives in Maryland. Greer seems to be conflating a couple of different issues here.





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