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Originally posted by AboveBoard
I don't think the hotels are in the picture at all. And I agree, the tinting would be universal, but I am not a photography expert, so if someone wants to present a photo of selective tinting, and can explain the process with the camera you say was used that may be something.
Originally posted by fah0436
I sure don't get what you guys are seeing.
Originally posted by squarehead666
BTW - You appear to be in breach of your Disclosure Project non-disclosure agreement (that does make me laugh), so expect Mr. Greer's lawyers to be in touch.
Originally posted by The GUT
Originally posted by AboveBoard
I don't think the hotels are in the picture at all. And I agree, the tinting would be universal, but I am not a photography expert, so if someone wants to present a photo of selective tinting, and can explain the process with the camera you say was used that may be something.
Okay, AB, here ya go.
I haven't been able to upload pics since ATS went to the new beta uploader so I'm trying photobucket for the first time, but this is a quick example of a double exposure with the color balance manipulated on each "layer." I did it on my iphone with a camera app called Fusion.
They are both the same candle shot from just about the same spot. I took the first pic with one white balance. It stayed on the screen and I changed the white balance and put the first "frozen" image next to the candle in the viewfinder and snapped again.
The software then processed them into one picture, but you will notice the color is different. Same candle a few seconds apart. Especially note the "orange" coloration of the candle on the left of the image.
Hope that somewhat demonstrates the concept.
i1163.photobucket.com...
edit on 12-8-2012 by The GUT because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
It cant be proven with certainty one way or the other Greer is doing his Ufo Disclosure things for the money or not. It also cant be said with any certainty one way or other if Ufos exist. What appears certain gauging by the existance of Ats and other similar forums there are open conspiracies in place to convince people ufo exists. Of course everyone has their own opinions, and personally i think Greer is an Alien who is using Disclosure to cover his indentity.
Originally posted by AboveBoard
As to a double exposure with a filter only on the first with the hotels visible and tinted red, well then the people wouldn't be red-ish either. If, as you indicated, the hotels are South from the Tiger Tail beach, which is on the eastern, ocean side of the island, wouldn't that put them on the right-hand side of the photo, and any errant hotel lights??? Just another thought... I have no idea where the comparison picture has been taken, or what direction, do you? Which makes trying to match them a moot point, but I tried...
peace,
AB
Originally posted by WhamBam
reply to post by ButtPain
You are so right about Dr Greer - he is being used by "the NWO, Illuminati, or puppet masters etc", I personally think that he has been deceived by them and that he truly believes that he has been in contact with aliens - (and he probably has had these experiences, only it was with demonic forces which we fully do not understand yet). ALREADY! Millions of people have known all this information.
There is a long and consistent history of people who would agree with your statement. One thing is for sure. Neither the NWO, TPTB or Steven Greer give a flying fook what ATS has to say about anything Greer related.
Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by The GUT
I totally agree with you GUT. He's nuttier than my fruitcake recipe.....
Des
Originally posted by AboveBoard
Hey ya'll,
Another point about the photo. I know, I know - I keep coming back to it!
I see what is being said in regards to the contour of the "orb" lights in comparison to the hotel horizon outline, and they are similar, however, one thing really has been bothering me and I couldn't put my finger on it until I searched around again for awhile -
there is no reflection on the water of the "hotel lights."
Originally posted by torsion
Originally posted by AboveBoard
Hey ya'll,
Another point about the photo. I know, I know - I keep coming back to it!
I see what is being said in regards to the contour of the "orb" lights in comparison to the hotel horizon outline, and they are similar, however, one thing really has been bothering me and I couldn't put my finger on it until I searched around again for awhile -
there is no reflection on the water of the "hotel lights."
The photo in your link was taken with an expanse of water between the photographer and the hotels which is why you see the reflections. The CSETI photo was taken on the same beach that the hotels are on. As it was taken during a very low tide (based on fah's time and date) and, due to the position and angle the shot was taken from, it is likely there was nothing but sand below the hotels, therefore no water surface to reflect on.
Deceitful photo editing could also apply. Fah states that he wasn't shown the photo until 30 minutes after it was taken. If the photo was genuine they would have drawn immediate attention to it, shown it within seconds of taking it and tried to observe the phenomena and take more photos. The 30-minute delay adds to the ever increasing mound of evidence that CSETI/Greer is a fraud.
Here's a 360 video of the same beach which gives you an idea of how far out the tide can go. The hotels /"Greer's orbs" can be seen at the 19 sec mark.
edit on 13-8-2012 by torsion because: added video
Originally posted by The Coward
The problem with Greer, is that if he is correct, you will be a fool!
Ha! He may be a little crazy, but you are crazier thinking you will find any truth in ATS about him.
Originally posted by AboveBoard
... I think fah deserves that as well as the topic in general (regardless of source).
Thank you for sticking with me on this!!
peace to you,
AB
Originally posted by ButtPain
KatTeats, you are so right about Dr Greer - he is being used by "the NWO, Illuminati, or puppet masters etc", I personally think that he has been deceived by them and that he truly believes that he has been in contact with aliens - (and he probably has had these experiences, only it was with demonic forces which we fully do not understand yet). ALREADY! Millions of people have known all this information.
Originally posted by ReallyNiceGuy
It is the common ploy for these PTB to spread disinformation (such as in this thread the assertion "Steven Greer is a pedophile" is possibly such disinformation) so you may be on to something there, ButtPain!
Originally posted by The GUT
Originally posted by ReallyNiceGuy
It is the common ploy for these PTB to spread disinformation (such as in this thread the assertion "Steven Greer is a pedophile" is possibly such disinformation) so you may be on to something there, ButtPain!
Who has used the word "pedophile" here, but you? Whoever it was should probably be banned barring any evidence to the contrary.
Most of us posting here are discussing the evidence that Greer is not adverse to bamboozling folk for fun & profit.
I, for one, have no evidence nor do I believe that the man is anything other than that: A fraud.
Any other accusation should have some basis in reality or it shouldn't be mentioned.
I'm calling sock skunk.
Who has used the word "pedophile"
Originally posted by ReallyNiceGuy
reply to post by The GUT
Who has used the word "pedophile"
Damn near a whole thread on it, read up and get back ASAP.
And please, keep up, we can't always be doing your homework for you.
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