Haven't acknowledged that sub-forum in over two years, for many reasons (those outlined, included)

It would be nice to see the resurfacing of intelligently researched, meaningful threads that encourage participation and questions from all sides - minus the trollery and politicking - and it would be very nice to not get called "cointelpro" for stating that a u-tbe video isn't proof of anything

One can only hope that this will help steer that forum in a new direction... and I do appreciate the efforts of the staff attempting to do so.

Thanks for the update, not that I engage in that forum.

Seems like there is a direct parallel with control on the outside and control on the inside...interesting..

Works great for me in BTS!

I've been called Anti-American...

Seriously though, it is great to hear that the 9/11 forum is staying. Good job ATS

I always wondered what was going on in the 9/11 forum, seeing relatively new posters posting extremely controversial and speculative theories.

Now i just read a few older postings by the site owners and got it confirmed there is something like "topic activists" which seem to use ATS as a tool/means to spread their absurd theories - without any real intention to actually hear other people's opinion.

And i also had the impression that those people "infiltrating" here are doing this mainly for the purpose of promoting other sites (which they frequently link to) - or maybe it's just sort of an ongoing disinformation campaign. So or so, its not constructive.

I therefore welcome the stricter rules, even if i don't frequent the 9/11 forum that much.

Interesting development.

I think this pretty much signals the end of a once useful website.

How much longer before the admins ban ALL unpopular opinion? How much longer before outright bans are handed out for ANY criticizing of Israel or anything deemed 'Anti-Semitic'?

First all drug discussion is summarily banned. Then any discussion that dissents from the 9/11 'official story' as dictated by those who have already made up their minds and are determined to force you to agree, is now banned as well.

Is ATS now Big Brother? Why haven't you deleted that thread that brought up the connection ATS has with the NSA? Seems appropriate enough, now that this site openly derides the questioning of the status quo. What's left to discuss in regards to conspiracies, when you're faced with deletion and banning for refusing to accept whatever you're told here, by anonymous 'industry professionals' who have pull with the website admins, as they preach to you that your conspiracy theory is delusion (are we still on a conspiracy website?) on the left, and squash dissent mercilessly on the right?

Will you ban and delete me as well, for questioning your actions? Do you understand the definition of Fascism?

Here. I'll give you a brief description.

"Fascism seeks to eradicate perceived foreign influences that are deemed to be causing degeneration of the nation or of not fitting into the national culture."

The irony here is that ATS IS a conspiracy website, that now punishes those who refuse to accept what they are told by self-appointed experts who demand that you "deny ignorance" as they explain away your fears. And if you should claim they are in error or might have a hidden agenda for ignoring certain facts or angles, BAM you're deleted and banned.

What's left to say here? The management of this website insists on a subversive determination to eradicate conspiracy theories, within the context of a conspiracy website. I'm speechless. Even the opening post of this thread condemns you for even thinking you have a right to be indignant for believe they are wrong. It's the height of hypocrisy. This reeks of conspiracy, and this very accusation endangers me of retribution, apparently.

Remove 'DENY IGNORANCE' and replace it with 'RESISTANCE IS FUTILE - YOU WILL COMPLY'.

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How much longer before the admins ban ALL unpopular opinion?
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You are entirely wrong.

There is a clear agenda by a small group of certain new people, coming here and posting the same CR@P over and over which you can find on a couple of other sites. It's always the same other sites which cover the same topics.

This is more trolling as opposed to engaging in constructive communication about an otherwise still interesting topic. IF ANYTHING, it's a diversion, distraction and a waste of time. They do that probably only for the purpose to draw some visitors from here to their own sites.

And...long-time users from here can very well post whatever they want, even if controversial.This is how i understand the rules.

Originally posted by flexy123
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How much longer before the admins ban ALL unpopular opinion?
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You are entirely wrong.

This is how i understand the rules.

This is exactly the type of hivemind collusion to squash questioning dissent that has lead to the downfall of this website.

Originally posted by pianopraze
Seems like a huge double standard to ban people for pointing out the legitimate shills... I have rarely been to the 9/11 forum so I'm not sure if people are just yelling this for no reason in there, but all across ATS there are lots of obvious shills.. you can tell them, as you said, by the methods they employ in their posting.

Put your money where your mouth is. Let's see your evidence that there are paid shills here.

Originally posted by yourignoranceisbliss
Will you ban and delete me as well, for questioning your actions? Do you understand the definition of Fascism?

Yes, we do. However, you do not seem to. ATS is a private website, not a government.

Yes good rules.

Now apply them EVERYWHERE.