We been connected to Israel for a very long time. We are also connected to many other countries too, but the difference is those other countries do not have 3 or 4 other countries around them that want to remove their Government. Nukes in the hands of Iran is a very dangerous situation, and they tend to flaunt every milestone, true or not, of their nuke program.
:"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews
(killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The
stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me,
come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of
tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Zionist is the Islamic word for "Jew".
Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by Sublimecraft
He doesn't say annihalate Israel. The media sure does love taking advantage of losing context in the translation of pretty much everything Iran says. The only war drums being beaten are being beaten by Israel. Fact.
Here we go again. Please do the research yourself instead of making everybody else show you where he has said this.
He has stated he wants to wipe Israel off the face of the map.
Just Google it or something if your lazy.
I wish the people who love this man would go visit Iran and see how wonderful their country is.
I don't have anything against the people of Iran, only the leaders who decide how their country is going to act.
I think the humane thing to do is for Israel or the United States to take out the nuclear facilitries now rather than let them get a nuke and give them the chance to use it.
This would cause the deaths of many Iranians who are inocent because they would be turned to glass.
That's all I'm going to say about this!
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
I hate to say this because it's a real contentious issue, I know. However, research does clear it up and the 'wipe Israel off the map' comment, really didn't happen. Not that way, not even close.
I learned that nasty little fact by tearing off a bit rashly to prove someone wrong on a thread quite some time back. I was sure he musta said it. Had to of. So much media could't all have it that wrong? Well.. Yeah. They do.
The actual comment wasn't even his. It was from the Ayatollah himself and it was mistranslated to boot, even from HIM. What he actually said escapes me for the word for word...but it wasn't real nice in it's own right. It just wasn't obliteration directly threatened.
They are more clever than that.
Although Iran and Israel are bitter enemies, few know that Iran is home to the largest number of Jews anywhere in the Middle East outside Israel.
About 25,000 Jews live in Iran and most are determined to remain no matter what the pressures - as proud of their Iranian culture as of their Jewish roots.
It is dawn in the Yusufabad synagogue in Tehran and Iranian Jews bring out the Torah and read the ancient text before making their way to work.
It is not a sight you would expect in a revolutionary Islamic state, but there are synagogues dotted all over Iran where Jews discreetly practise their religion.
"Because of our long history here we are tolerated," says Jewish community leader Unees Hammami, who organised the prayers.
He says the father of Iran's revolution, Imam Khomeini, recognised Jews as a religious minority that should be protected.
As a result Jews have one representative in the Iranian parliament.
"Imam Khomeini made a distinction between Jews and Zionists and he supported us," says Mr Hammami.
· Expats offer families £30,000 to emigrate
· Our identity is not for sale, say community leaders
The following correction was printed in the Guardian's Corrections and clarifications column, Saturday July 28 2007
In the article below we reported that last year President Ahmadinejad said (quoting the late Ayatollah Khomeini) that Israel should be "wiped off the map". A more literal translation of the statement he made in 2005, at The World without Zionism conference in Tehran, is "the regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time".
Iran's Jews have given the country a loyalty pledge in the face of cash offers aimed at encouraging them to move to Israel, the arch-enemy of its Islamic rulers.
The incentives — ranging from £5,000 a person to £30,000 for families — were offered from a special fund established by wealthy expatriate Jews in an effort to prompt a mass migration to Israel from among Iran's 25,000-strong Jewish community. The offers were made with Israel's official blessing and were additional to the usual state packages it provides to Jews emigrating from the diaspora.
However, the Society of Iranian Jews dismissed them as "immature political enticements" and said their national identity was not for sale.
"The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradeable for any amount of money," the society said in a statement. "Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran's Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews."
The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv reported that the incentives had been doubled after earlier offers of £2,500 a head failed to attract any Iranian Jews to leave for Israel.
Iran's sole Jewish MP, Morris Motamed, said the offers were insulting and put the country's Jews under pressure to prove their loyalty.
Originally posted by Raelsatu
Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Zionist is the Islamic word for "Jew".
A Christian defending the Zionist/neocons & making assertions about all Islamics? Wow couldn't have seen that one coming...
One that note, Ashkenazi Jews comprise 80 percent of the Jewish population, and at one point 93 percent. They are Jewish only by conversion to the faith. Truth is every religion, culture, and nation is not without some form of corruption/intolerance. It's also true that entities such as the Rothschild dynasty are Jewsish (Khazarian); considering the Rothschilds are [in]famous for their manipulation of global/national currencies, as well as being the most wealthy influential family in history.... I can see why some might be suspicious & or spiteful.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by DarknStormy
There are roughly 20,000 Jews is Iran. They apparently have 1000's of year lineage and live in peace among the Iranian people. Most were offered $10,000 to migrate to Israel and the majority rejected the offer and despise the country of Israel along with it. That is no joke either.
I bet there are 100,000s of Americans that despise America too. Jews have been in the middle east for over 3500 years so I think it is ok for them to have their own little country, but the Muslims disagree....
Would it not be grand if the Muslim world offered the refuges in Gaza 10,000 dollars and a place to live too? But they don't and totally ignore them other than to use them as a propaganda pawn.
The problem here is that when he mentions the "Zionists" the media instantly attaches an "anti-Semitic" sentiment to it... if you actually think about what we all say on ATS daily it's very similar to what he is saying. The elite banking cabal control the media and the money... and quite often we do label the people in the cabal the "Zionists" (and we do not mean Jews). So in reality Ahmadinejad is simply reiterating things which we say on a daily basis... of course these things are conspiracy theories, and the western populations are trained to dismiss these theories about the controlled media and money as merely delusional theories held by crazy people. It's funny then that Ahmadinejad should hold these beliefs too... because of the position he is in it's quite obvious that he is a very intelligent man and he isn't just throwing out wild guesses and stupid theories. He knows what he is talking about, he knows the information backing up his theories, and he knows how the world really works behind the scenes.
Repeating traditional anti-Semitic slurs, the Iranian president accused "Zionists" of controlling the world's media and financial systems. It was Zionists, he said, who were “behind the scene of the world’s main powers, media, monetary and banking centers.”
because of the position he is in it's quite obvious that he is a very intelligent man and he isn't just throwing out wild guesses and stupid theories. He knows what he is talking about, he knows the information backing up his theories, and he knows how the world really works behind the scenes.