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Originally posted by coldkidc
reply to post by thegagefather
What the hell are you rambling on about? You obviously don't understand what the real issues are - you're scared of guns, you are operating from a position of fear not logic.
Do you think all the guns will just suddenly go "poof" if our almighty government decides we're not supposed to have them?
Besides - your ignorance about the purpose of & many reasons for firearm ownership is obvious - you've probably never even touched a gun.
Originally posted by Heehaw
Yang Xinhai killed at least 65 people in China with a hatchet, shovel, and a hammer. China's worst serial killer, and only caught eight years ago. Shall we ban hatchets, shovels and hammers? Don't be silly. A knife is a tool, and if a knife isn't used to stab people, a screwdriver will be. People are utterly ridiculous.edit on 4-8-2012 by Heehaw because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thegagefather
Originally posted by Heehaw
Yang Xinhai killed at least 65 people in China with a hatchet, shovel, and a hammer. China's worst serial killer, and only caught eight years ago. Shall we ban hatchets, shovels and hammers? Don't be silly. A knife is a tool, and if a knife isn't used to stab people, a screwdriver will be. People are utterly ridiculous.edit on 4-8-2012 by Heehaw because: (no reason given)
ANYTHING in order to be right.
ANYTHING in order to play the part of poor little guy who's being attack by the man.
ANYTHING to hold the use of guns over the use of brains.
Originally posted by thegagefather
reply to post by coldkidc
Also, only 11 countries in the world have a higher % of gun-related deaths than the USA? Can you guess which ones?
South Africa, Columbia, El Salvador, Jamaica, Honduras, Guatemala, Swaziland, Brazil, Estonia, Panama, and Mexico.
What does that tell you?
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by thegagefather
reply to post by coldkidc
Also, only 11 countries in the world have a higher % of gun-related deaths than the USA? Can you guess which ones?
South Africa, Columbia, El Salvador, Jamaica, Honduras, Guatemala, Swaziland, Brazil, Estonia, Panama, and Mexico.
What does that tell you?
It tells you guns are banned in those other countries....
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by thegagefather
reply to post by coldkidc
Also, only 11 countries in the world have a higher % of gun-related deaths than the USA? Can you guess which ones?
South Africa, Columbia, El Salvador, Jamaica, Honduras, Guatemala, Swaziland, Brazil, Estonia, Panama, and Mexico.
What does that tell you?
It tells you guns are banned in those other countries....
England has a higher violent crime rate than America per capita... What does that tell you...
edit on 4-8-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by rainbowbear
reply to post by thegagefather
YOU are free to use or not use firearms as you see fit..
YOU ARE NOT allowed to dictate what and how others choose to defend themselves.
You WANT the STATE to PROTECT you. So be it. I have no problem with that.
But YOU are mearly regurgitating ignorant rhetoric on this forum about guns.
YOU beLIEve statistics. Enough said.
When you have an original thought, please share it.
You are free to let the State protect you. You are NOT free to have the State tell others what to do. Quit defending the State. Its bigger than you and is using you.
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Originally posted by thegagefather
reply to post by coldkidc
Also, only 11 countries in the world have a higher % of gun-related deaths than the USA? Can you guess which ones?
South Africa, Columbia, El Salvador, Jamaica, Honduras, Guatemala, Swaziland, Brazil, Estonia, Panama, and Mexico.
What does that tell you?
It tells you guns are banned in those other countries....
England has a higher violent crime rate than America per capita... What does that tell you...
edit on 4-8-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)
In South Africa, owning a gun is conditional on a competency test and several other factors, including background checking of the applicant, inspection of an owner's premises, and licensing of the weapon by the police introduced in July 2004. The process is currently undergoing review,[1] as the police are at present, not able to adequately or within reasonable time, process either competency certification, new licenses or renewal of existing licenses. Minimum waiting period frequently exceeds 2 years from date of application. All current firearms owners, approximately 2.6 to 3 million according to the SA Central Firearm Registry
Originally posted by Xtrozero
I know there are a lot more factors that go into these numbers,
edit on 4-8-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thegagefather
And again, just in case it was missed. Religious Civil War in the UK. That one you happened to not consider into the equation.edit on 4-8-2012 by thegagefather because:
Ever see the riots at their sporting events...
Another factor is all these countries have a large poor population with high organize crime rate. In America it is the same as the poorer the population in a city the more crime there is. This has nothing to do with guns, and in my above post, with New York, it is the perfect example of this, and where in Switzerland EVERY house hold has an military grade weapon and ammo as an example of where quality of life and not guns is the driving factor.
Maybe we should outlaw poor people instead....
edit on 4-8-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)extra DIV