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How can you lose something you never had in the first place?Also if I don't vote I have every right to complain. It is those who do vote that have no right to complain. Those who do vote have propped up this ruse of a system. I on the other hand, who did not vote, as a matter of fact did not even leave the house on election day have every right to complain about the problems you voted for, the problems you created by allowing this charade to continue.
Originally posted by Akuhei
You don't exercise your right to vote, you might as well have lost it altogether.
Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
Regardless of what you vote, the electoral college has the final say anyway. The US is a representative democracy, not a direct-democracy, and if your so-called representatives are bought and paid for (lobbyism) then it's time to try a different approach.
Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
Everyone is complaing about everything from the impending war on Iran and Syria to which candidate couldn't care less about the average Joe. A two-party system is designed to fail it's citizens and make it a lot easier for corporations to buy the votes from both sides of the isle.
If you really want to shake up the system. If you really want to get international attention to the rampant corruption of the US Gov then the best thing to do is to stop perpetuating it, by voting in these mock elections.
Regardless of what you vote, the electoral college has the final say anyway. The US is a representative democracy, not a direct-democracy, and if your so-called representatives are bought and paid for (lobbyism) then it's time to try a different approach.
In closing, a vote for any of the talking heads this November is a vote for (big) business as usual. This can be the beginning of a movement that is uncorruptable...uninfiltratable (if that's a real word) and guranteed to get the message out that we will not tolerate treason anymore.
Make t-shirts, signs and bumper-stickers. Post on Facebook. This movement has no leader to be bought, killed or discredited. It's a movement, by the people, for the people.
Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
Everyone is complaing about everything from the impending war on Iran and Syria to which candidate couldn't care less about the average Joe. A two-party system is designed to fail it's citizens and make it a lot easier for corporations to buy the votes from both sides of the isle.
If you really want to shake up the system. If you really want to get international attention to the rampant corruption of the US Gov then the best thing to do is to stop perpetuating it, by voting in these mock elections.
Regardless of what you vote, the electoral college has the final say anyway. The US is a representative democracy, not a direct-democracy, and if your so-called representatives are bought and paid for (lobbyism) then it's time to try a different approach.
In closing, a vote for any of the talking heads this November is a vote for (big) business as usual. This can be the beginning of a movement that is uncorruptable...uninfiltratable (if that's a real word) and guranteed to get the message out that we will not tolerate treason anymore.
Make t-shirts, signs and bumper-stickers. Post on Facebook. This movement has no leader to be bought, killed or discredited. It's a movement, by the people, for the people.
Originally posted by Akuhei
Yes, it's a complete and utter sham, but you know what? If you don't vote for someone, you don't have the right to complain about whoever the president is after they take office. If you don't vote, the talking heads will get into office anyway. You're just displaying complacency with the system.
You don't exercise your right to vote, you might as well have lost it altogether.
Originally posted by GD21D
How can you lose something you never had in the first place?Also if I don't vote I have every right to complain. It is those who do vote that have no right to complain. Those who do vote have propped up this ruse of a system. I on the other hand, who did not vote, as a matter of fact did not even leave the house on election day have every right to complain about the problems you voted for, the problems you created by allowing this charade to continue.
Originally posted by Akuhei
You don't exercise your right to vote, you might as well have lost it altogether.edit on 1-8-2012 by GD21D because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by SLAYER69
Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
Regardless of what you vote, the electoral college has the final say anyway. The US is a representative democracy, not a direct-democracy, and if your so-called representatives are bought and paid for (lobbyism) then it's time to try a different approach.
The US is a Representative Constitutional Republic not a "Democracy" I wish people would get that straight.
I agree with some of what you've said but IMHO if you havent served or excised your right to vote then you have no place to bitch moan or complain.
Originally posted by GD21D
How can you lose something you never had in the first place?Also if I don't vote I have every right to complain. It is those who do vote that have no right to complain. Those who do vote have propped up this ruse of a system. I on the other hand, who did not vote, as a matter of fact did not even leave the house on election day have every right to complain about the problems you voted for, the problems you created by allowing this charade to continue.
Originally posted by Akuhei
You don't exercise your right to vote, you might as well have lost it altogether.edit on 1-8-2012 by GD21D because: (no reason given)
I have served, but even if I didn't who are you to tell me what rights I have?
You perpetuate a broken system and raise your head high, because, "At least I can complain."
Imagine the world-wide support we would garner if we finally took a real stand.
Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by SoymilkAlaska
Well you certainly do a lot of complaining now, What have you done to help change the situation besides all that complaining?
Originally posted by intelligenthoodlum33
reply to post by SLAYER69
I hear you, brother.
I think of it like this: What if you lived in a town with only one movie theatre and this theatre played the same movie 365 days a year. Most people in town hate this movie, but the theatre couldn't care less, because it gets kick-backs from the studio. What's the only way to get a new movie in there? Answer: Stop supporting that theatre with your money. Starve the beast.
People complain day in and day out, but as long as we keep feeding the system it will live.