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It would appear that both candidates have Israel's back as well they should.
I don't understand this whole mentality of how the US is supposed to protect and back Israel in all it's actions, offensive or otherwise. What exactly do we get in return for sending them as much money and support as we do? (Other than an unstable Middle East)
There isn’t enough space here to discuss the relative merits of the expenditures in these other countries, but we already know the critically important return the U.S. gets for helping its oldest, most trusted ally in the strategically important Middle East — the most powerful military force in that region, the pro-U.S., pro-West and democratic Jewish state of Israel.
First, it’s important to remember that about 70 percent of the $3 billion in aid must be used by Israel to purchase U.S. military equipment. This provides real support for U.S. high-tech defense jobs and contributes to maintaining our industrial base. This helps the United States stay at the very top in the manufacturing of our own cutting-edge military munitions, aircraft, vehicles, missiles and virtually every defensive and offensive weapon in the U.S. arsenal — with the added contribution of Israel’s renowned technical know-how.
Second, the United States and Israel are jointly developing state-of-the-art missile defense capabilities in the David’s Sling and Arrow 3 systems. These two technologies build on the already successful Arrow 2, jointly developed by our two countries, which is already providing missile defense security to Israel and U.S. civilians and ground troops throughout the region. The knowledge the United States gains from these efforts also has a positive multiplier effect on applications to other U.S. military and non-military uses and U.S. jobs.
Third, given Israel’s strategic location on the Mediterranean, with access to the Red Sea and other vital international shipping and military lanes of commerce and traffic, it is critically important to the United States that Israel continues to serve as a port of call for our troops, ships, aircraft and intelligence operations. Israel also has permitted the U.S. to stockpile arms, fuel, munitions and other supplies on its soil to be accessed whenever the United States needs them in the region.
Fourth, America’s special relationship with Israel provides the U.S. with real-time, minute-to-minute access to one of the best intelligence services in the world: Israel’s. With Israeli agents gathering intelligence and taking action throughout the Middle East and, literally, around the world, regarding al Qaida, Hezbollah, Iran and Hamas, among others, the U.S. receives invaluable information about anti-U.S. and terrorist organizations and regimes.
Originally posted by randomname
what bothers me is that you get tools like romney saying that america should and has to be the leader of the free world, champion and defender of democracy, then it supports a military occupation of an entire race of people by another race of people.
especially when its done by americas greatest best friend forever.
Originally posted by ABNARTY
...and cue the avalanche of antisemitism cries and a completely derailed thread. This is one of the most divisive topics on ATS or most places for that matter.
I applaud the posting of facts in support of discussion. I hope they survive more than one page.
Via Con Dios!
Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by EvilSadamClone
The antisemite card so soon?
To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all Jews, for if the Goyim knew what we teach about them, they would kill us openly. Libbre David 37
A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17
When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves.
Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D
On the house of the Goy [Goy means unclean, and is the disparaging term for a non-Jew] one looks as on the fold of cattle.
Tosefta, Tractate Erubin VIII
When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to our law, belongs to no one, and the first Jew that passes has full right to seize it.
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156
That the Jewish nation is the only nation selected by God, while all the remaining ones are contemptible and hateful.
That all property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which consequently is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples. An orthodox Jew is not bound to observe principles of morality towards people of other tribes. He may act contrary to morality, if profitable to himself or to Jews in general.
A Jew may rob a Goy, he may cheat him over a bill, which should not be perceived by him, otherwise the name of God would become dishonored.
Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat, 348
If a goy killed a goy or a Jew he is responsible, but if a Jew killed a goy he is not responsible.
Tosefta, Aboda Zara, VIII, 5
Originally posted by VictorVonDoom
I have a half-baked tin foil hat conspiracy about US - Israel relations. I don't have time to give a fleshed out post right now, though. Think back to the Knights Templar. I think there is something in Jerusalem, a piece of ancient technology perhaps. Something important that can't be moved. I think that's why the land was taken away from the original inhabitants after WW2, and that's why the US tries to stay on Israel's good side. But I don't think this thing, whatever it is, is being used for the good of humanity.