reply to post by silent thunder
In 1798 the 5th Congress of the United States passed The Alien and Sedition Acts
among other things, criminalized criticisms of government. John Adams was the President who signed these acts of legislation into "law" and just
weeks before this had arrested Benjamin Franklin's grandson, Benjamin
for calling Adams a bald toothless incompetent fool. Chief Justice John Marshall had not yet been appointed to the Supreme
Court so the notion of judicial review was not a legal issue at this point. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison both went on a campaign of
From the Wikipedia article on Alien and Sedition Acts:
Chernow argues that neither Jefferson nor Madison sensed that they had sponsored measures as inimical as the Alien and Sedition Acts themselves.
Historian Garry Wills argued "Their nullification effort, if others had picked it up, would have been a greater threat to freedom than the misguided
[alien and sedition] laws, which were soon rendered feckless by ridicule and electoral pressure" The theoretical damage of the Kentucky and
Virginia resolutions was "deep and lasting, and was a recipe for disunion". George Washington was so appalled by them that he told Patrick Henry
that if "systematically and pertinaciously pursued", they would "dissolve the union or produce coercion". The influence of Jefferson's
doctrine of states' rights reverberated right up to the Civil War and beyond. Future president James Garfield, at the close of the Civil War, said
that Jefferson's Kentucky Resolution "contained the germ of nullification and secession, and we are today reaping the fruits".
Take note that historian Gary Wills probably takes great comfort in the fact that the FBI have raided homes to seize materials expressing ideas as he
certainly believes that the nullification of an oppressive act of legislation is a "greater threat to freedom" than the act of oppression itself.
The U.S. has a long and rich history of trampling all over the rights of people and in terms of silencing speech and press, it only took 5 sessions of
Congress and the second President of the United States, and just 12 years after the adoption of the Constitution for the United States of America to
Would Americans breathe in the indoctrination of "historian" Gary Wills, or will they stand tall and fight for freedom?
If these suspects were actually involved in destruction of property then there needs to be evidence, if not proving, supporting that. Books on or by
Che Guevara and Chairman Mao do nothing to further that aim. Of course, as Lennon and McCartney once sang:
If you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow...you know it's gonna be all right...all right...all
The rule of law has always mattered and the path to hell is most assuredly paved by good intentions. Regardless of the Justice Departments aim, it is
their due process that matters. Gaining an indictment is one thing:
The Grand Jury would indict a ham sandwich
Getting past the arraignment, and here I would hope these people fully understand the obligation of challenging jurisdiction, and if they don't, then
the government still has to convince a jury which is hardly a Grand Jury but is instead a legal process where the burden of proof lies solely with the
This is not to excuse this odious act by the Justice Department, simply a warning to all that this is the government we have in the U.S. and if any of
us want someone to blame, consider this:
You get the government you deserve.