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New TV channel run exclusively by fully veiled women

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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by nightbringr

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
What? Females are only mutilated in Muslim Countries?

Sources should probably be looked at before making such statements.

Source checked and confirmed. 95% of these countries are predominently Muslim. If you dispute that, id love you to list those that are not. Thank you for proving my point.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Thousands. They don't hide them in their homes like the media would like you to believe.

The only women you will see are being accompanied by their husbands. You must have spent a hell of a long time there to see thousands. I call bull on this one.


FGM is an African tradition that is supported in Islam. Muslims, Christians, and other Africans cut women. It is rare (although not unheard of) outside of Africa.

Women go outside alone all of the time. If you'd like, I'll take a picture of many, many women outside without male guardians, and post it for you.




posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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Jumpin in here....this means WHAT exactly?




posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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I read this, this morning,
A New Amish Community Is Founded Every Three-And-A-Half Weeks in US, Experts Estimate
www.sciencedaily.com...

So why in this day and age are the Amish, Mormons, Muslims growing by leaps and bounds?

I decided to watch a few videos on the darker side of the Amish,

Which lead me to this video about the Mormons,

Irene Spencer, Polygamy is all we ever knew, part one.

youtu.be...




Rebecca Kimbel interviews Irene Spencer, a fifth generation polygamist. Irene has relatives in almost every fundamentalist polygamist cult. She tells of boys working to support their fathers so they can have more wives, women who wore their suffering like a badge, children raising children, lies on birth certificates, lieing for God,living in poverty and how her oldest daughter quit sixth grade and had to stay home to help raise her father's children.


Sound familiar?

Bound by fear, uneducated, married off young, encouraged to have large families.

youtu.be...

The Secret Life of the Amish Part1



Poor quality film, sorry



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:21 AM
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What if they are using them as a form of anonymity. Doesn't it kind of turn the idea of keeping them hidden on it's head if they use the anonymity of it as a platform to express themselves freely?



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:32 AM
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By keeping these women away from the world they keep them ignorant, ignorance is what keeps people trapped, the man can mould them starting at a young age into what he wants them to be

What he is actually doing is eradicating your identity.
Irene Spencer

That last quote spoke volumes, what is more powerful in eradicating an identity then a veil?



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Bottom line is if you don't like them don't wear them the rest is
NOT your business.


They don't always have a choice, but I guess that's ok with you.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by mysterioustranger
Jumpin in here....this means WHAT exactly?



That woman is wearing a burqa, a tent-like covering which is forced upon them in Afghanistan.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by article
To be honest, I find that alot of women today dress sleezy and if they were raped because of some sex lust guy who couldnt handle seeing one more buttcheak...

Yeah, this comment makes me sick. Looks an awful lot like your justifying the rape of young women simply because of the way they dress. I dont care if a girl walks around naked, she does NOT deserve rape. Pathetic comment.

Originally posted by article
Have you seen how kids... KIDS dress today? Teens? I mean, UNDER 21 and still dressing as slutty as a stripper about to walk into work.

Some do, yes. Whether i approve or not isnt the issue. She is a person with rights and she can dress how she wants, when she wants. I believe in liberty for all. If a man can walk around in shorts without a shirt, its pretty hypocritical to ask a woman to cover up, isnt it?

Originally posted by article
I dont agree with our dress code in the US as of late. It's way too "There in your face" wether you like it or not, you cant do or say anything about it. So ... In a way...

The only way i would agree with this is if the women were forced to dress the way you describe. Since they do it of their own volition, i have no problem. I dont have religious hangups on the way people dress. That said, if a Muslim women chooses to dress in a hijab, im ok with it. Its when they are forced to i have an issue with it.

Originally posted by article
You're FORCING people to observe what you wear. So it's no diffrent in many ways to those people wearing their kind of dress.

Huh?

Originally posted by article
Besides.. Why would it concern you?

Right. I shouldnt care at all about the plight of people oppressed on the other side of the world. Only about what happens here in my back yard. I hear this over and over on ATS. Newflash, im very active politically in my community and country, and care very much about what happens here too.

Originally posted by article
Today, "some" children are still dressed in this same manner around some of the older. I so much rather see these children in attire that wont have a pedophile licking his/her lips

In this case, the pedophile is the sick one, not the girl. Your placing blame on the wrong party. Yes, i agree pre-teens should not be walking about in next to nothing. Shows like Toddlers and Tiarras make me sick, but again, if one does and is assaulted because of it, the blame lies solely on the perp. No girl ever deserves that.

Originally posted by article
This stuff HAS to cross your mind if your family does this... or you simply dont have the gonads to step up and be a man about it and say what you feel.. Or you're totaly ok with it ...and what goes around... Usually comes around.

And here your implying if i do not demand my daughter to dress conservatively, she may be raped and it would be my fault? "What comes around goes around?". Give your head a shake.

Originally posted by article
Leave tradition alone unless you're part of that tradition. Some people may hold onto something we consider appauling. Think... Those people think the same. hell, some of our own people in this country think this way.... and obviously, much dont give a damn how they look... the more skin the better.

Yes, some of them are appauling. And almost as appauling are apologists who think its "ok" for a culture to mutilate the genitals of their young girls so they might never experience the pleasures of sex. They will never cheat on their husbands for this reason. Appauling is accepting that women in one area of the world will never have equality, a chance at a life of their own, experience all of the pleasures and joy this life has to offer.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by inalandfaraway
Women go outside alone all of the time. If you'd like, I'll take a picture of many, many women outside without male guardians, and post it for you.

When i made that statement, it was about Saudi Arabia. Id love for you to photograph the many, many women out and about on their own, without family male supervision.

Ive been to Eqypt, im aware women are allowed out and about, although with your new Muslim Brotherhood leadership, i suspect this might soon end.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
reply to post by nightbringr
 


What if they are using them as a form of anonymity. Doesn't it kind of turn the idea of keeping them hidden on it's head if they use the anonymity of it as a platform to express themselves freely?

But they cannot express themselves freely in countries like Sudan, Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, can they? Veil or not, they are slaves.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by ToneDeaf
It is about control as much as neck-ties are about control.

Bottom line is if you don't like them don't wear them the rest is
NOT your business.

Yeah, why should we give a rats ass when people are oppressed? Right?

Originally posted by ToneDeaf
Why would anyone wig out about females having
their own TV-news program ? all while ignoring women being beaten in
their own back-yard ? That just is a head shaker and more than hypocritical.

Your assuming we dont care about our backyard why?

Originally posted by ToneDeaf
And who are you to demand otherwise the Queen of england ?

Yep. Your right. Who cares about oppressed women or minorities? Obviously not you.


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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by Bodhi7
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As opposed to our culture where women have to wear nothing to get male attention right?





Sorry you feel that way.

I find a well dressed woman quite attractive. Too bad YOU need them to be next to naked.

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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by nightbringr

When i made that statement, it was about Saudi Arabia. Id love for you to photograph the many, many women out and about on their own, without family male supervision.


Saudi women can go out alone. True, they have to have the permission of a male and they aren't allowed to drive, but they go outside without men all of the time. How else would they work (and they do work)?


Originally posted by nightbringr

Ive been to Eqypt, im aware women are allowed out and about, although with your new Muslim Brotherhood leadership, i suspect this might soon end.


They aren't my "leadership"; I'm not Egyptian.

But I do see your point and I agree with your prediction.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by nightbringr

Sorry you feel that way.

I find a well dressed woman quite attractive. Too bad you need them to be next to naked.


I'm an American woman, living in Egypt, and I just want to give you a bunch of applause for coming out and saying that.

One of the pleasures I find in living here is that it's okay - actually expected - that women will dress like ladies. Forget "next to naked" for a minute and think about what is "normal" in American in terms of clothing for women. Almost all of it falls into one of three categories: 1.) hooker wear, 2.) men's wear, or 3.) outdoor pajamas.

I much prefer looking like a lady.




posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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Originally posted by article
There are people, here in the US even that are not muslim that do not agree with how women in this country tend to dress. To be honest, I find that alot of women today dress sleezy and if they were raped because of some sex lust guy who couldnt handle seeing one more buttcheak...

See my post about 3 posts up. Your rationalizing rape with being dressed skimpy makes me sick.

Originally posted by article
Have you seen how kids... KIDS dress today? Teens? I mean, UNDER 21 and still dressing as slutty as a stripper about to walk into work.

Again, see my post up top. Do you realize that saunas in the Netherlands are co-ed? People there dont rape girls simply because they are naked next to them in the sauna, and if they do, its the rapists fault. Men walk around all day shirtless in shorts. So hypocritical of you to not expect the same of women.

Originally posted by article
I dont agree with our dress code in the US as of late. It's way too "There in your face" wether you like it or not, you cant do or say anything about it. So ... In a way...

No one should tell anyone else how to dress. That includes me. Again, if a women WANTS to don a burka, fine. I have a problem with it being forced upon them.

Originally posted by article
You're FORCING people to observe what you wear. So it's no diffrent in many ways to those people wearing their kind of dress.

I cant help it if your uptight.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 11:44 AM
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If their faces are covered, you'd only need to video one show.
After that, just dub in new graphics and audio.
If you can't see their mouths move, what's the difference?



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by subject x
If their faces are covered, you'd only need to video one show.
After that, just dub in new graphics and audio.
If you can't see their mouths move, what's the difference?
that is a funny way to look at the channel. Perhaps folks would pay more importance to the news then the newscaster in that case without buying any of the bile that many newscasters spew ?



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by inalandfaraway
Saudi women can go out alone. True, they have to have the permission of a male and they aren't allowed to drive, but they go outside without men all of the time. How else would they work (and they do work)?

If this is true, thank you i did not know they could work or go out without a male escorting them. Again, i believe women people and as such are equal to men and should not require permission to go out or for anything else for that matter.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
reply to post by nightbringr
 


What words did I put in your mouth?

Your quote:


Yes i know what he meant, and i dont think morals should be imposed by gunpoint like it is in conservative Muslim countries


As per that quote, you clearly think that ALL muslim countries are the same, so therefore all people must be same right?

Ok, so i say "conservative" which mean places like Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Afghanistan. And yet you assume i mean all countries. Gotcha!

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
If you don't want to be called out for making generlizations, then don't make them.

As i just showed above, i didnt. Your knee jerk reactions are showing.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
As for your wife, unfortunate. My sister got her butt grabbed by a homeless man downtown the other day, does that mean Canadians are terrible people?

My wife has lived in Canada all her life, and never once has she experiences the things she did in Eqypt and Morocco. Lets tally that up, shall we? 29 years in Canada, never once spit on or molested, 2 hours in Egypts streets and both happened in broad daylight on busy streets.


Your experiences in Egypt or any other Muslim country may have something to do with western countries doing a lot of damage in the ME. This could have built a lot of resentment in the hearts of Muslims.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by nightbringr
If this is true, thank you i did not know they could work or go out without a male escorting them.


saudigazette.com.sa...

Since 1992, women’s participation rate in the Saudi national labor force has nearly tripled, from 5.4 percent to 14.4 percent.

"Employment" for Saudi women is primarily in places that other women shop - boutiques, lingerie stores, etc., so there isn't an opportunity to mix with me which is heavily regulated, but yeah, they work. Not without permission, of course, but they do.

The irony, as I see it, is when it comes to driving. Saudi women aren't allowed to drive in Saudi, but they sure do drive everywhere else.


Originally posted by nightbringr

Again, i believe women people and as such are equal to men and should not require permission to go out or for anything else for that matter.


I agree, and I know I wouldn't be all skippy happy about my entire life depending on the mood of every male I happen to share a gene pool with.



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