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$9,000,000,000,000 MISSING From The Federal Reserve .. Shocking Footage !

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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 06:58 PM
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"We're talking about events that happened 8 months ago, have you reached any conclusions about the fed expanding its balance sheet over a TRILLION dollars since last september?"

"We have not reached any conclusions"

"Do you know who received that money?"

"For.. The.. We're.. We're in the process right now of um.. doing our review.. and um...."

"Right but you're the Inspector General.. My question is specifically do YOU know who received that $1,000,000,000,000+ that the fed extended in its balance sheet, do you know the identity of the recipients?"

"I do not know, we have not looked at that specific area... at this particular point in those reviews....(silence)..."

This is amazing, it's like a principal or a teacher in high school questioning a little kid, they both know that they have been naughty and done something wrong, but she pretends to know nothing and just dances around the questions without giving any real answers.

She umms and ahhs so much you can tell she didn't expect anyone to pickup on the fact that $1 trillion dollars is missing. You have had 8 months to review a balance sheet.. A BALANCE SHEET, and you can't work out where $1 TRILLION DOLLARS went? And you are the Inspector General?!?!?! You haven't looked "at that specific area"? What the fu# have you been looking at then?

It's all well and good for this guy to call her out on this ridiculousness, but who is there to actually prosecute? Anyone with the power to do this is already in each others pockets, and are in on this whole thing.

Disturbing.




posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul
 


Gold and other precious metals are a tad bit different, the supply and demand and then their are the products that business use to make electronics, and other things.

Not the same really.


Use of gold in electronics is miniscule and het price you pay does not represent the demand for that purpose at all.

Paper currency also has practical uses - eg wall papering, wiping your posterior.

And like gold if the practicle purposes werer all it was valued for then it would be worth even less than it is now.

The value of anything, including gold and "fiat" currency, is only what someone else is prepared to give you for it.

Nothing more, and nothing less.

consider when armageddon comes - how much gold or paper would you sell your food supplies for?

for me there would simply be no trade at all - no gold would be worth any amount of food.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
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Well considering inflation that 20 bucks in 1913 has todays value of over $460 just shows how much the dollar has been devalued, and where it use to be backed by something.

So if i went to go buy a tv in 1913 if they existed one of those really nice hdtv would cost about 100 bucks in 1913 dollars.

Seems that is not working about too well for people right now.


Wellllllllllllll....

Judging something as complex as this with one metric is ALWAYS going to be... sketchy, no?

The real truth is that ALL value is based on what people believe something to be worth.

How much was an ounce of gold worth, in todays money in 1913?

$18.92

So...

These things require some proper perspective



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 07:18 PM
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Gold's price was fixed, and tied to the dollar for quite sometime so that value was predetermined unlike today.

The dollar and the price of oil are tied together currently.
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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by longlostbrother
 


Gold's price was fixed, and tied to the dollar for quite sometime so that value was predetermined unlike today.

The dollar and the price of oil are tied together currently.
edit on 2-8-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


Depend who you buy the oil from


My point is that value of commodities and currencies is fairly irrational, and often driven by speculation, not reality.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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9 trillions missing is all i need to know

Clueless. The Fed lends money. The money isn't "missing". Read the Fed's own audited financial statements if you want to understand who the Fed lends money to. Go here:

www.federalreserve.gov...

The Fed is a central bank. It lends money to the government, to corporations, and to government agencies. The Fed is profitable.

To suggest that somehow the Fed has trillions of dollars that have gone "missing", is patently false. The audit from an outside third party accounting firm - Deloitte & Touche - clearly gives a breakdown of the lending facilities that the Fed has put in place for various borrowers.

If the Fed "lost" money on any of its credit facilities to borrowers, these losses would be reflected in their financials statements. The most recent year-end 2011 financial statements show that the Fed is very healthy indeed.

To quote this Congressman as some legitimate authority on these matters is ridiculous. He's grandstanding in this video. Quit quoting radical leftist Communist Congressmen as legit sources. Sheesh.

IF, in fact, there had been $9 Trillion in lost funds, these would show up on the financial statements as a negative Net Income of $9 Trillion. If you look carefully at the financial statements, the Net Income for year-end 2011 is positive, not negative.

Please, please quit spreading all of this misinformation and lies. The Fed didn't "lose" trillions of dollars. Good grief. These audited financial statements on the Fed are available to the public to review at their own leisure.
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posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:36 PM
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Technically, not abolished...there was a time limitation written in and when it expired, and there was no more war to finance, it was allowed to die quietly. Then they tried to include income tax with tariff laws but the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional. The 16th Amendment of the Constitution gave income tax its permanent status but it wasn't a new idea or new thing at all.

And to get really technical, the Civil War wasn't the first war that brought up income tax to fund the expense...it was the War of 1812.

It is kind of the same way with the Fed...the names and the official status of these things have changed over the years but the idea of central banking originated at the same time our country officially became sovereign.

Which actually makes the Fed older than income tax collection...maybe not called 'the Fed' but a central bank nonetheless...or the precursors of same.

And the founding fathers got the idea from the only example they'd had to follow which was in England.



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Funny. If that were $9,000,000,000,000 worth of missing tax money, the government would hunt down every motherf#cker that owed them. But since it's money they owe the people, they do everything they possibly can to weasel their way out of explaining themselves. This should make people more angry. But it doesn't. Maybe it's because that number is so big it looks too silly to be real?



posted on Aug, 2 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by queenannie38
reply to post by SeesFar
 


Technically, not abolished...there was a time limitation written in and when it expired, and there was no more war to finance, it was allowed to die quietly. Then they tried to include income tax with tariff laws but the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional.


and it is important to remember that it wasn't the idea of income tax itself they said was unconstitutional - it was the idea of income tax on the proceeds of investment, rent and dividends that was not aportioned according to the population of the States that was unconstitutional.

Had it been apportioned, or had it not been on those types of income, then there would have been no problem.

the 16th amendment "merely" removed the requirement for any taxes to be apportioned.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 12:39 AM
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Originally posted by TheAnarchist
reply to post by Ben81
 


Funny. If that were $9,000,000,000,000 worth of missing tax money, the government would hunt down every motherf#cker that owed them. But since it's money they owe the people, they do everything they possibly can to weasel their way out of explaining themselves. This should make people more angry. But it doesn't. Maybe it's because that number is so big it looks too silly to be real?


No my friend, it's really just because most of the people here on planet Earth are misled and uneducated human beings who's time is occupied with taking care of their families. Concerning many, they are not to blame. There are many who are very intelligent. Unfortunately, the Nation of their origins, and their social conditions prevent them from having access to proper education and growth. These are people with more honor than many here in the west.

Then, you have the many in all countries abroad (including here in the USA) who are mentally ill and only care about themselves and their mentally deranged existence. They are fake, weak, and easily controlled sheoplized robots who will never fight for anything as long as they continue to get their American Idol, booze, prescriptions and street purchased meds. Whatever the Nation that receives the benefits of the civilized world, this is the reality of the situation.

Our ancestors were such stronger beings though. They had to fight to live. They had to fight to just eat and feed their families every single day. Imagine that, having to worry about where you and you're family were gonna get food and water every single day of your existence? We can't even begin to comprehend their struggle.

Yuh know, That is a long way back in time from the fast food slob of today who depends on all of the various preservative infested pits nationwide in order to survive. With that being said........(every person should have access to greasy food while the going is still good though). Even though that fact is the end of us anyway because they are the majority, and the purchased politicians and their families know this.

My apologies to the clip haired, red diaper doper baby food police. I just love greasy cheeseburgers, and I will miss them if the SHTF. In & Out Burger and Bubba's Burgers in Kauai will be worshiped and have their own Church after the end of times. LMAO! Sorry my friends, but I had to throw that in because people fighting to survive will dream of this fast and easily obtained food source of the soon to be fallen ages.

Back to reality though, Sure, we have alot of great people here in America and in the World all over. The truth of the matter is though, that the majority of us are ignorant morons that are occupied with just surviving, let alone taking any sort of action in order to better our own life. We are easily controlled and manipulated by much more intelligent beings. It's Natural Law, as evil as it is. Nature is evil though, no doubt about that my friends.

That is why the pathetic and pre-purchased governments of the $heople Nations continue to leave the borders wide open here in America, and abroad. Not only to bring in more cheap labor to bring down wages of the middle class, but also to increase the population of slaves in order to atleast stay in the game with red China. They desire more, and more low class serfs because it will make them richer and eventually cause the social unrest that they desire.

Truth is, Division is good business for the deciders. It causes more confusion which buys these carpetbaggers even more time to rape the masses of sheople from every class, other than the 1 or 2 %. This unfortunately is the way of the World my friends. Which is......that the strong always dominate the weak minded, as well as the physically weak. Money = power, and Power = being able to dominate less fortunate beings.

Yes, It's sad that this is the the way it is, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth. With that being said, the point of the post is that The puppet masters who control the Federal Reserve, all their robots world-wide, all their corporate androids and internationalist Mercenaries who only care about making another buck, will continue to excecute their plans and agenda as long as good men continue to do nothing whatsoever to stop it. Good men are just purchased and payed for sell out yes men.

We will also always have here at ATS the robot minded yes men (you all know who they are) and debunkers that enable, make excuses and assist these rapers of nations with their dirty work which is, and has always been to enslave the less fortunate, misled and uneducted masses of ManKind. ~$heopleNation
edit on 3-8-2012 by SheopleNation because: TypO



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by SheopleNation

Originally posted by TheAnarchist
reply to post by Ben81
 


Yes, It's sad that this is the the way it is, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the truth. With that being said, the point of the post is that The puppet masters who control the Federal Reserve, all their robots world-wide, all their corporate androids and internationalist Mercenaries who only care about making another buck, will continue to excecute their plans and agenda as long as good men continue to do nothing whatsoever to stop it. Good men are just purchased and payed for sell out yes men.

We will also always have here at ATS the robot minded yes men (you all know who they are) and debunkers that enable, make excuses and assist these rapers of nations with their dirty work which is, and has always been to enslave the less fortunate, misled and uneducted masses of ManKind. ~$heopleNation
edit on 3-8-2012 by SheopleNation because: TypO


For every debunker there's 100 gullible "conspiracy sheople" that just believe what conspiracy theorists on blogs and YouTube and ATS tell them.

Believe things based on facts, not just because they contradict the OS.

The pro-conspiracy herd mentality is just as strong as the OS mentality. Either you know that, and you're independently minded and thorough in your research, or you're just another brand of sheople.
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posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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Real sheop don't know how to spell sheep*.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by queenannie38
reply to post by SeesFar
 


Technically, not abolished...there was a time limitation written in and when it expired, and there was no more war to finance, it was allowed to die quietly. Then they tried to include income tax with tariff laws but the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional. The 16th Amendment of the Constitution gave income tax its permanent status but it wasn't a new idea or new thing at all.

And to get really technical, the Civil War wasn't the first war that brought up income tax to fund the expense...it was the War of 1812.

It is kind of the same way with the Fed...the names and the official status of these things have changed over the years but the idea of central banking originated at the same time our country officially became sovereign.

Which actually makes the Fed older than income tax collection...maybe not called 'the Fed' but a central bank nonetheless...or the precursors of same.

And the founding fathers got the idea from the only example they'd had to follow which was in England.


Do you have sources for that information? The source I provided states that it was abolished and "From 1868 to 1913, almost 90 percent of all revenue was collected from the remaining excises."

So, what other central banks, and by what other names, did the U.S. have prior to the Federal Reserve Bank?

The initial site I provided explained the tie of the Internal Revenue Service to the Federal Reserve Bank and explained how the Fed makes (literally) money, whether it's printed at the Fed or at the Treasury, they still make (as in create) it for cost and lend it at face value.

If either you or Aloysius Gaul (hope I got that name correct) can provide any credible information contradicting the claims of the Econ 101 page, I would be grateful to have the links to read. TYIA

As far as anyone getting the idea from England, central banks go much farther back than that and cover several other Countries. And, as far as researchers can determine, they all involved ownership by at least one particular family.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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A quick google search will show you all about the history of central banks after the Revolutionary War in the US.

Central banking and fiat money goes way back, and has little to do with any particular family in places like China.

Central banks and fiat money are just bogeymen...



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother
For every debunker there's 100 gullible "conspiracy sheople" that just believe what conspiracy theorists on blogs and YouTube and ATS tell them.

Believe things based on facts, not just because they contradict the OS.

The pro-conspiracy herd mentality is just as strong as the OS mentality. Either you know that, and you're independently minded and thorough in your research, or you're just another brand of sheople.


You've just claimed that the conspiracy community is 100x larger than mainstream.

You've also claimed that it is this community that is gullible, deceived, and easily manipulated.

And then you made an unsubstantiated allegation of "sheopleness" without addressing a single claim/fact/assertion in the post you were responding to.

Please contribute with us in a meaningful manner? The issue here is that "we the sheople" are being butchered under the auspices of "we need to get some of that wool off you to pay for your food."

Not: how to correct conspiracy theorists of their illness.

Thanking you.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by harryhaller

Originally posted by longlostbrother
For every debunker there's 100 gullible "conspiracy sheople" that just believe what conspiracy theorists on blogs and YouTube and ATS tell them.

Believe things based on facts, not just because they contradict the OS.

The pro-conspiracy herd mentality is just as strong as the OS mentality. Either you know that, and you're independently minded and thorough in your research, or you're just another brand of sheople.


You've just claimed that the conspiracy community is 100x larger than mainstream.

You've also claimed that it is this community that is gullible, deceived, and easily manipulated.

And then you made an unsubstantiated allegation of "sheopleness" without addressing a single claim/fact/assertion in the post you were responding to.

Please contribute with us in a meaningful manner? The issue here is that "we the sheople" are being butchered under the auspices of "we need to get some of that wool off you to pay for your food."

Not: how to correct conspiracy theorists of their illness.

Thanking you.


The 100/1 ratio is in relation to the CT community, not the general population.

If you want it substantiated, start by fact checking the posts in this very thread; most are factually inaccurate. Hell, most people didn't even bother to see if the OPs claim was true. They assumed it was, and that the pol in the vid had his facts straight. And they assume she SHOULD know the answers, and could.

That's a lot of assumptions.

You know she actually responded to this exchange, released a statement even. Why is that not part of the OP? Have you read it and fact checked it?

Let me guess...

You may have some goal, but that doesn't mean it's mine. Mine is truth, not an ideological agenda. Hell, I even find the term "sheeple" (however you want to spell it) to be ridiculously simpleminded and inaccurate.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother
The 100/1 ratio is in relation to the CT community, not the general population.
Hell, most people didn't even bother to see if the OPs claim was true. They assumed it was, and that the pol in the vid had his facts straight. And they assume she SHOULD know the answers, and could.
That's a lot of assumptions.
Let me guess...
Hell, I even find the term "sheeple" (however you want to spell it) to be ridiculously simpleminded and inaccurate.


Yes indeed, a lot of assumptions, assertions, unqualified accusations and generalisations, along with an unhealthy portion of personal prejudice.


So you're saying, that of 100 conspiracy theorists, the lone, single "debunker" is the only sane, correct, informed person of the lot. The rest are all deluded, tricked, lazy, feeble, whatever, and need the debunker to correct their delusions of ... conspiracy?


Do i understand you correctly? This is getting better with each new post.


So you're the Super debunker!


Do you have super powers of obfuscation, misdirection and fallacy too?



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by longlostbrother
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A quick google search will show you all about the history of central banks after the Revolutionary War in the US.

Central banking and fiat money goes way back, and has little to do with any particular family in places like China.

Central banks and fiat money are just bogeymen...


I know how to use Google and other search sources, thank you; in fact, I'm one of "those" posters who virtually always backs up claims with non-partisan, verifiable sources (at least with such of those as can actually be found - non-bias is becoming harder and harder to locate these days). What I'd LIKE is for others to do the same.

Central banking goes back to the latter part of the mid 1600s. The point of discussion on this thread is the role of centralized banking HERE in the U.S., particularly the Federal Reserve Bank. That said, to believe that Central Banks, worldwide, do not have to do with ONE family in particular indicates a lack of diligent research upon the individual making such a claim. Not that that one family acts alone; but, rather, that their finger is in every Central pie.

If I provide information that solidifies my point(s), I believe it behooves others who disagree or would tell me that I am incorrect to provide information that solidifies their point(s), thus proving their information is correct.

If I do my homework prior to posting, I believe others would be kind to extend me the same courtesy. It's asking too much of one person to both provide their own resources AND verify the vague claims of others.

Just my opinion, of course.



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Ben81
You will never ask again .. why the economy is so bad after watching this
because it is been drained dry since 9/11 to this day

this particular video will show americans how politic really works
and explain with a big clear number (9 Trillions and probably much more)
why the economy is doomed to crash and it will never recover



They cant even answer his question like adults
she look like surprise this question wasnt filtered
they hate to be caught and EXPOSED

Now you know why they need to manipulate the market
so people will never realise until its to late
that the government has been stealing all that money under everyone nose

You will ask "WHY" ?

It is very expensive making underground cities for the elites
thats why they are not scared of retaliation from the mass
they just need to old the outrage waves before the SHTF
and run hidding in their deep rabbit holes
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Wow that is so much money
imagine what a difference it would be for the country, wouldnt it pull everyone out of debt?



posted on Aug, 3 2012 @ 10:27 AM
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Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by queenannie38
reply to post by SeesFar
 


Technically, not abolished...there was a time limitation written in and when it expired, and there was no more war to finance, it was allowed to die quietly. Then they tried to include income tax with tariff laws but the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional.


and it is important to remember that it wasn't the idea of income tax itself they said was unconstitutional - it was the idea of income tax on the proceeds of investment, rent and dividends that was not aportioned according to the population of the States that was unconstitutional.

Had it been apportioned, or had it not been on those types of income, then there would have been no problem.

the 16th amendment "merely" removed the requirement for any taxes to be apportioned.


You would be amazed at how many people don`t know that
most people gain their `knowledge` from the tabloids or an internet forum



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