Mitt Romney 'Didn't Pay Any Taxes For 10 Years'

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posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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Originally posted by Liquesence
These people will block everything Obama does just to see him fail, which negatively affects thousands of other people (just to see him fail), and now these, selfish hate-filled degenerates threaten to shut down their business if he is elected, which likely puts many more Americans out of jobs...just because he is re-elected??


Did it ever occur to you that the person was referring to closing shop because it was no longer economically viable? Or should he remain open for the expense of the respondent who so eloquently expressed their opinion?

If I were a small business owner I too would be wary (not only of the Obama years but also the Bush years and beyond) of what the government had in store of me and what I should see as best for my business.


These people have their priorities all bassackwards, and the well-being of the country or of the people is certainly not high on the list, if they will sacrifice and sabotage so many vital things to get him out, see him fail, and ensure he is not re-elected.


Quote honestly I think you have your priorities all "basackwards". I open up shop not for the well being of the country but for my self and my family. I know that is hard to swallow for some who think we should all be in it for the "collective" or the "nation" but most business owners aren't.

Sure most give back to the community and that is awesome. It is their own prerogative and their own doing; not the heavy hand of government or the "will" of the people forcing them to do so. It just so happens that you believe that all private enterprise should look to president and be mindful that he wants to be elected again.
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posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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But is it OK to boycott a Chick fil a and put innocent people out of work because you disagree with the owners religious beliefs?

Except in this case Obama and his Administrations policies have hurt the business owner whereas Chickfila's owner's beliefs haven't affected anyone.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Liquesence
 


But is it OK to boycott a Chick fil a and put innocent people out of work because you disagree with the owners religious beliefs?

Except in this case Obama and his Administrations policies have hurt the business owner whereas Chickfila's owner's beliefs haven't affected anyone.



While we're on the two topics... What are your feelings on tax schemes and plural marriages?

Here's some music to get your heart thumping:


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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 12:27 AM
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This deserves a thread of its own, but in any event (back-scratching taken a little too seriously):


It is the latest twist in a saga that has become a firestorm for the casino mogul, who owns casinos in Las Vegas, Macau and Singapore and is the most active donor in U.S. Republican candidate Mitt Romney's presidential campaign.

Adelson is already due to face an August 30 hearing in the United States, where District Court Judge Elizabeth Gonzales will decide whether Las Vegas Sands Corp withheld financial documents in a case in which the 78-year-old is accused of having personally approved of prostitution at the company's casino in China's special administrative region of Macau.

Jacobs claims in court documents that he was wrongfully dismissed after clashing with Adelson over what Jacobs alleged was improper and illegal conduct, including allowing prostitution and hiding the use of unauthorized construction workers for the Sands China casino.


Notice a trend forming?

Source



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Liquesence
 


But is it OK to boycott a Chick fil a and put innocent people out of work because you disagree with the owners religious beliefs?

Except in this case Obama and his Administrations policies have hurt the business owner whereas Chickfila's owner's beliefs haven't affected anyone.



What has Chil-fil-a to do with this thread/debate? Not a thing. Where did i mention Chick-fil-a? I didn't.

One has nothing to do with the other, therefore your statement is irrelevant.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy

Originally posted by Liquesence
These people will block everything Obama does just to see him fail, which negatively affects thousands of other people (just to see him fail), and now these, selfish hate-filled degenerates threaten to shut down their business if he is elected, which likely puts many more Americans out of jobs...just because he is re-elected??


Did it ever occur to you that the person was referring to closing shop because it was no longer economically viable? Or should he remain open for the expense of the respondent who so eloquently expressed their opinion?

If I were a small business owner I too would be wary (not only of the Obama years but also the Bush years and beyond) of what the government had in store of me and what I should see as best for my business.


These people have their priorities all bassackwards, and the well-being of the country or of the people is certainly not high on the list, if they will sacrifice and sabotage so many vital things to get him out, see him fail, and ensure he is not re-elected.


Quote honestly I think you have your priorities all "basackwards". I open up shop not for the well being of the country but for my self and my family. I know that is hard to swallow for some who think we should all be in it for the "collective" or the "nation" but most business owners aren't.

Sure most give back to the community and that is awesome. It is their own prerogative and their own doing; not the heavy hand of government or the "will" of the people forcing them to do so. It just so happens that you believe that all private enterprise should look to president and be mindful that he wants to be elected again.
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edit on 31-7-2012 by ownbestenemy because: (no reason given)


I think you missed the point of my reply. I am aware that some people close shop because it might not be economically viable; however, that was a clear stated reason in the post. The proper way to say such a thing would be, " because of Obama's policies, my business is suffering and if he is reelected i will have to close shop," NOT, "if he is reelected i'm closing my business." See the difference there, bud?

That post was perfectly clear in intent and tone.

While people certainly do open up shop to sustain their own well being, closing shop purely on the basis of one's opinion of the president is selfish and the attitude (unless because it has not become viable) is immature.

So, please don't personally insult me with your reply.

Thank you.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 06:03 AM
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It's pretty sad they have to throw just about anything against the wall to try and keep O in office. Be that as it may, hearsay is easy.

I have found no confirmation but I overheard somewhere that a Senator likes to wear womens clothes and frequently wears lingerie under his suit. I don't know if this is true but he has not denied it or gone to cloak room with colleagues to prove what's under his suit. Inquiring minds want to know.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Im sorry, Why does Romneys, or should i say how does Romneys taxes affect you or anyone at this point? Lets pay devils advicate, lets say he did owe 10 million in taxes, ok, hes a tax check like Herry Reid, John Kerry, Naccy Polocey, Tim Gietner, or anyones in power for the matter. But i dont see everyone all up in arms about them? o, well, o, there different.

We should be worring about the 10's of millions of jobs lost in the last 4 years. The taxes that could be collected by getting those jobs back far out number any taxes Romney might be hidding if hes hidding anything, kind of like obama and his grade we are not allowed to see.

yeah, your all right. Romney not paying taxes is way more important then the economy right now. we should talk about his taxes from now until elections.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss
Im sorry, Why does Romneys, or should i say how does Romneys taxes affect you or anyone at this point? Lets pay devils advicate, lets say he did owe 10 million in taxes, ok, hes a tax check like Herry Reid, John Kerry, Naccy Polocey, Tim Gietner, or anyones in power for the matter. But i dont see everyone all up in arms about them? o, well, o, there different.

We should be worring about the 10's of millions of jobs lost in the last 4 years. The taxes that could be collected by getting those jobs back far out number any taxes Romney might be hidding if hes hidding anything, kind of like obama and his grade we are not allowed to see.

yeah, your all right. Romney not paying taxes is way more important then the economy right now. we should talk about his taxes from now until elections.


IT's important because we are vetting him to become the most powerful man in the world.
If he is corrupt or deviant it would be better to find out now then after he is in power, don't you
think?



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by camaro68ss
Im sorry, Why does Romneys, or should i say how does Romneys taxes affect you or anyone at this point? Lets pay devils advicate, lets say he did owe 10 million in taxes, ok, hes a tax check like Herry Reid, John Kerry, Naccy Polocey, Tim Gietner, or anyones in power for the matter. But i dont see everyone all up in arms about them? o, well, o, there different.

We should be worring about the 10's of millions of jobs lost in the last 4 years. The taxes that could be collected by getting those jobs back far out number any taxes Romney might be hidding if hes hidding anything, kind of like obama and his grade we are not allowed to see.

yeah, your all right. Romney not paying taxes is way more important then the economy right now. we should talk about his taxes from now until elections.


IT's important because we are vetting him to become the most powerful man in the world.
If he is corrupt or deviant it would be better to find out now then after he is in power, don't you
think?


it did not stop the people from voting for Obama. We still dont know anything about his passed because hes spend millions of dollars hidding it from the people yet still the double standerds are there.

Yes we should find out who these people are so the same efforts should be on Obama as well but that will never happen. It will be a cold day in hell when the MSM starts asking about Obamas radical past.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by camaro68ss

Originally posted by thepresident

Originally posted by camaro68ss
Im sorry, Why does Romneys, or should i say how does Romneys taxes affect you or anyone at this point? Lets pay devils advicate, lets say he did owe 10 million in taxes, ok, hes a tax check like Herry Reid, John Kerry, Naccy Polocey, Tim Gietner, or anyones in power for the matter. But i dont see everyone all up in arms about them? o, well, o, there different.

We should be worring about the 10's of millions of jobs lost in the last 4 years. The taxes that could be collected by getting those jobs back far out number any taxes Romney might be hidding if hes hidding anything, kind of like obama and his grade we are not allowed to see.

yeah, your all right. Romney not paying taxes is way more important then the economy right now. we should talk about his taxes from now until elections.


IT's important because we are vetting him to become the most powerful man in the world.
If he is corrupt or deviant it would be better to find out now then after he is in power, don't you
think?


it did not stop the people from voting for Obama. We still dont know anything about his passed because hes spend millions of dollars hidding it from the people yet still the double standerds are there.

Yes we should find out who these people are so the same efforts should be on Obama as well but that will never happen. It will be a cold day in hell when the MSM starts asking about Obamas radical past.



Obama wrote several books all about his past, you can actually read what he thinks in his own
words, why don't you find out for yourself?

As far as Romney, all presidents have to go through it... Romney make $58,000 a day,
naturally people want to examine his business dealings.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by Americanist
 


This debate has already happened around here. Prove it. Better yet, let the IRS open an investigation. That is their job. Rest assured, Romney's tax records have been groomed with a fine tooth comb by an army of IRS agents. Furthermore, trust that his returns were prepared by highly skilled accountants and tax attorneys.


No one said anything was illegal...but you can be sure it will piss a lot of people off if Romney did in fact pay zero taxes for 10 years since he is a millionaire.

We already know that last year he paid an incredibly low tax rate...with his illogical refusal of releasing anything else...I don't doubt at all that there is something very damaging in his taxes...not illegal...but politically damaging.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by Ben81
 


Research the facts from the IRS yourself....not the Obama ad...that is not denying ignorance....the ad lies....


I just posted the proof above.


First...there is no ad...just a statement by Harry Ried

Second...take a breath...stop hyperventilating.

Third...no one is saying he did anything illegal...and the campaign from his statement saying "he paid what he owed" is still true if Harry Ried is right and he owed nothing.



Sorry Republicans...this isn't going away...it will follow Romney until November. If he had nothing to hide, he would release his taxes and make Obama and the Dems look like fools. And please understand that when I say "hide" I don't mean something "illegal"...just something that will make him look like more of a rich out of touch douche then he already looks like.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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it did not stop the people from voting for Obama. We still dont know anything about his passed because hes spend millions of dollars hidding it from the people yet still the double standerds are there.


I like when people make this claim, because I can then write them off as irrational and ignorant.

Please..show me a non-birther site that shows Obama has "spent millions" to "seal" his past.

It's honestly not even worth engaging in conversation with people like you at this point...after 3 1/2 years...if you still beleive garbage like that...you are closed off to facts and reality.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 10:21 AM
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Think for a change. Do you think a person making millions wouldn't hire a good CPA to handle the taxes? The news is floating around conveniently before election as expected but no where it is made evident with proof that indeed Romney cheated or didn't pay his taxes. I'm sure his CPA or the CPA Firm would know the IRS rules lot better than you or me and the politicians. Just ignore the nonsense that will be slinged at each other until November 2012.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
Better yet, let the IRS open an investigation. That is their job. Rest assured, Romney's tax records have been groomed with a fine tooth comb by an army of IRS agents.


Oh, I think nobody ever doubted that! Did you?

And so it might just be the case that his finely crafted returns did result in using every loophole known to man (and man's subspecies, CPA) to squirrel money away in a foreign account or tax haven.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by hp1229
Think for a change. Do you think a person making millions wouldn't hire a good CPA to handle the taxes? The news is floating around conveniently before election as expected but no where it is made evident with proof that indeed Romney cheated or didn't pay his taxes. I'm sure his CPA or the CPA Firm would know the IRS rules lot better than you or me and the politicians. Just ignore the nonsense that will be slinged at each other until November 2012.


He probably has the best CPA, all the more reason why his returns should be clean and wholesome.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by jibeho
Better yet, let the IRS open an investigation. That is their job. Rest assured, Romney's tax records have been groomed with a fine tooth comb by an army of IRS agents.
Oh, I think nobody ever doubted that! Did you?
And so it might just be the case that his finely crafted returns did result in using every loophole known to man (and man's subspecies, CPA) to squirrel money away in a foreign account or tax haven.
So is it Illegal or Legal to use the existing legal loopholes that is? If No then its the IRS's job to fix the loopholes isn't it?



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:08 PM
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No one is saying anything was done illegally...and if it was done illegally...we wouldn't see it in his tax returns...that is the whole point of doing something illegally


But...the American public is not going to be happy to see a milliionaire pay zero taxes for 10 years if that is in fact true.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by hp1229
 
No one is saying anything was done illegally...and if it was done illegally...we wouldn't see it in his tax returns...that is the whole point of doing something illegally

But...the American public is not going to be happy to see a milliionaire pay zero taxes for 10 years if that is in fact true.
Well what we refer to as 'we' generally have less knowledge about the tax returns and the changing laws every year. No way in hell would he not pay any txes for 10 years. The question so far is with respect to the 'capital gain' taxes and not the 'income taxes'. Which tax he didn't pay? Any idea? Anyone?





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