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Disturbing Hypothis: Reason for actual conspiritorial events and major cover-up's

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posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 07:33 PM
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The supplied links seem to point to their ultimate plans. At least that was what the thread was pointing to.
And you're right, we'll just have to wait and see if this hypotheses has merit.




posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 07:41 PM
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I suppose that's true, but only in that specific circumstance and in any case if they do have an underground base then there has to be at least one if not multiple entrances to said location. You can only hide an entrance so well. I would strongly encourage people to be observant of high level political movements and high ranking military movements. If they were really preparing for something that they would have to survive for years to come afterward then they had to move supplies to that location or locations. You can't move that much supply without SOMEONE noticing. Never stop observing would be my response to what you say. For if they are to hide then surely they can be tracked to where they are hiding, especially when they go to hide. If you have enough people in a dire situation and they can find such a place, they WILL find a way in, no matter how well you defend that location. Even if it's super strong welding materials and a jack hammer might find a way in. Believe in the strength of the people to defend their freedoms. We haven't risen as a nation to fight our oppressors but we are capable and if you believe that then maybe just maybe you can influence the other sheeple around you to believe that too. Let us throw off the shackles of tyranny.
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posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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My guess is there are many underground locations scattered around the world. After all TPTB are a global consortium.
You made a good point though. I recall last year there was a FEMA emergency response exercise, about a possible New Madrid earth quake, where there was a reported purchase of MRE'S enough to feed 7mil. people for a week.
www.godlikeproductions.com...

Wonder what happened to the MRE's after exercise. Maybe a cover for spending taxpayers money for TPTB?



posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Screwed
I think you touch on a subject that more or less, has been talked about 1000 times before but I thank you for providing the links.

Ideas that I fully accept as reality and fact.

A. Our government and every major government in the world knows 100% that there is a global
catastrophie coming.

B. They have prepared for this eventuality and have done so at our expense and right under our noses
by building massive underground cities which will house enough people to repopulate humanity when the
Dust settles..

C. Out of the ashes will rise their NWO. Order out of Chaos or ORDO AB CHAO. This will be a world ruled
openly, once and for all, by the one known as Lucifer who is but a social memory complex who's sole
purpose was/is to assist humanity in our evolution by creating as much chaos and destruction as possible
in order to offer us free will/choice and to create the necessary negative harvest for them to continue inhabiting this physical reality and ultimately propel us into a fourth dimensional reality. The ones we know as TPTB are mearly pawns being used by the one/s known as lucifer in order to unwittingly HELP us in the long run. (gotta love the irony) They will ultimately suffer under the complete and soul crushing control of the one they worship.


D. The majority of surface dwellers will die/begin their ascention into a fourth dimensional construct/reality.
To the ones "left behind" it will appear as though 100's of Millions of people died and to them, from their
perspective, they would be right. But, to the people who have "died" they will simply "wake up" in a different
reality governed by different rules and properties. They will have no more 'died' than you do when you
fall asleep everynight only to 'wake up' in the morning.


E. People who live their lives in fear/service to self will finally be free to do so without being held back by
people who insist on living in love/service to others.


F. People who live their lives in love/service to others will finally be free to do so without being held back
by people who insist on living in fear/service to self.

G. In summary, everyone will finally be where they need and want to be and balance will be restored to our
little section of the universe.

- the end.


Thanks for the thought provoking thread OP.

Alot of people wouldn't have the courage to put forth this info.



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You Sir, DID have the courage to put forth your own take on what the OP discussed....for a moment I thought I was reading an enticing science fiction chronicle! I'll buy it!



posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 10:30 PM
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We haven't risen as a nation to fight our oppressors but we are capable and if you believe that then maybe just maybe you can influence the other sheeple around you to believe that too. Let us throw off the shackles of tyranny

Only if we stop allowing ourselves to be "dumbed down" by the MSM as one example. We cannot see what is right before our eyes....so much talk about underground bunkers and martial law and money disappearing and false flags....if it looks like a rat, smells like a rat...it is indeed a rat! But in our own little worlds there is "too much ado about nothing." And so it shall remain.



posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 10:59 PM
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Interesting thread and hypothesis OP.

I guess in line with your thoughts is the notion that the "meek" shall inherit the world. I personally find it somewhat appealing that the elite would cower in underground bunkers because of space dust to avoid "death". I find that appealing because there are theories that this space dust is what triggers a sudden evolution of life on earth.

You can call it ascension or whatever you are comfortable with but most likely the danger of this space dust comes from massive amounts of radiation which can alter DNA...and sometimes its not always a negative alteration. Maybe this space dust is responsible for the DNA alterations on this planet through the ages. We call it "evolution" but could it simply be a cyclic dosage of space dust radiation that changes the life on this planet such as that from reptiles to mammals etc...???

In any case its possible the arrogance of the elites and their obsessive compulsive desire to survive will leave them underground and inferior to what will transpire on the surface...and then, the meek shall inherit the earth. While they are left with their obsolete dependent psychopathic selves as literally bottom feeders with no inferior life left to exploit but themselves....and this we shall call hell!! MUAHAHAHAAHA

anyway I guy can dream right???



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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I agree with everything here, but I think the game is even bigger than that. I think certain "powers" have always known what is coming.

Also anyone who has their head on tight knows money could never be their end game. If they take too much of it the economy crashes and then the paper is worthless. But really what does that paper represent? Man hours...
They took your time..
They took your energy..
And now..
You are no longer needed in these large numbers..

After the collapse they will be kings and gods.

So they think..

The game is even bigger than that though..

This world is a dream. We are dreaming this world. They want to stay here in this dimension and take it from god sealed and forever theirs..

The Matrix some people call it. I don't plan on staying here any longer than I need to, but in the mean time I came here to help, and so it will be done.

Another piece in this puzzle is mind control. Take enough "trips" beyond the maya and you know that it's all a dream and that you can change it if you want to, with but a choice. Fear or Love. These "PTB" are not fully playing a 3D human game. They are more playing a 5D human cage game. They have thought of everything to prevent our escape and to seal their galaxy, but they cannot defeat gods at their own game.

I already WON this silly game. I Win by default because the only they win is if I play. Make your own game up. Doesn't even have to be a game of life. Heck it doesn't have to be 3D.
You get what I mean.

If you think I am crazy,
Then you read the wrong post.
You can pretend you never read it easy enough though.

Have Fun Guys


Oh and Follow the white rabbit, but just until you figure out you created the maze the rabbit runs through, and don't have to "travel" at all.

"Stop trying to hit me and hit me"
"Do or do not, there is no try."

LOVE

HahAHAha atleast they made it interesting..







.....rhythm I ride on top of that, given you the truth so copy that
soon the e-conomy collapse, great tribulation after that
skull and cross bone pirate hats, British west indies company cats
we call that Steve Cokely raps, illuminati coming but I'll be back

Before they collapse the market, they're criminalizing farming
they're silencing you for talking, while turnin us all into peasants
Agricultural patents ConAgra causing famines
Monsanto's seeds that terminate the natural birthing action

Controlling the food supply, choosing who should live or die
Confusion rules you choose the lie, illusion illuminates your mind
These are the last times, spend them getting organized
Victory be with the strongest tribe, the ones that forge the tightest ties

The light is ours, they're the sons of darkness in disguise
Edom's fall is Jacob's rise, so the prophets prophesized
Cecil Rhodes mining more than just De-beers
We're rewinding through the years but you would rather drink da beers......

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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 05:30 AM
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Dear OP,

My thoughts exactly, as far as speculation goes,

Thanks for organising my thought for me and presnting them


SnF



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 06:11 AM
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This is a theory that has plagued my mind for a few years now, and the more that time has gone on, the more the pieces seem to appear and fit the concept.

What the impending "doom" is, is a different matter. But the concept is without doubt a feasable one.

Though I am very intrigued by the concept of the "3 days of total darkness". I think "Screwed" explained it quite well.

I also have a love for the following concept. Whether it is true or not is a different matter, but it is excellent food for thought... and a great fun concept if nothing else. In my opinion, worthy of an hour of your life. Like I say, it is a fun concept... but if it turns out to be true, then we'll find out in the fullness of time I suppose.






posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 06:37 AM
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I had a conversation with a very religious person recently, and I told tthem that you could never know what good and evil is.. Because those doing the perceived evil, may believe they are doing good. So, if you knew the world was going to get beat up, and you couldnt tell 6 billion people for fear of mass anarchy.. Would you not do the same? We all agree that the number one purpose for life, is to create offspring, and hold off the extinction of the species. We may not see it clearly because theres so many of us.. Critical mass brings unconventional thinking. So, survival is number 1. Its a hard pill to swallow.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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I think your post is extremely interesting and parallels many of my views on these subjects.
I also may be crazy, but through meditation and strange lucid dreams I feel I have awakened which is what led me to this site in the first place.
We all know that something extremely momentous is occurring right before our eyes and we should be grateful to be here in this time to witness it.
You have to think that there is a reason why the PTB's are finally starting to show their hands. Its obvious that they have no care or consideration for the most of us and it is easy to believe that they are planning for some future event with foreknowledge we are not privy too.
I have never believed I belonged here, I felt I was biding my time waiting for something to happen. I am not sure whether this 12/21/2012 is going to occur, but something is definitely happening.
I have a constant ringing in my ears ( tinitus?) or something else? I often seem to know things before they happen and I have made contact with my higher self.(Told you I was nuts).
The other thing is I hear phantom voices which sometimes wakes me from my sleep. I have never been religious I am definitely an agnostic with leanings to buddhism, karma makes sense when you consider we are basically energy wrapped up in matter, and when the energy leaves the matter starts to decompose.
Basically our bodies are the vehicles we are driving while we are here.
I think by the end of the year we will know much more and TPTB are holding back on the info for a reason.
No doubt a selfish reason.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 07:52 AM
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A little off-topic, but you can find a description of the ringing in your ears on the following video. It is a good sign


Here



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 08:04 AM
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NOAAs prediction is that the solar sunspot cycle is declining and will be less than average for 2013
Link is

www.swpc.noaa.gov...

But also, what would be the actual mechanisms causing heat catastrophy ? One could make a common sense prediction that greater turbulence created by passage through a charged cosmic cloud might disrupt the transfer of energy to earth through the photons flowing from the sun.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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Great thoughts, now tie all that in to the spiritual connection to all those things, and then look at man and the Earth.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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Yes, a disturbing hypothesis, S+F.

It doesn't matter whether a natural clock is running out of time, and we're all just passive observers, or whether there is some agenda at work ... i think that observing and being aware of trends like you describe is very important.

Yeah there are a lot of things all happening at once, think about the naivety of the year 2000, just before the whole 9/11 thing. And in 10 years we're at a point where we cannot decide whether the hostile takeover of Syria or the global financial meltdown or the olympic games is going to break the camel's back first. Use any perspective you want, it's very out of whack.

Of course, many of us believe that all 3 above are intimately linked, i guess we'd be those who believe in "an agenda" driving events. But what if the agenda had an over ruling time line? It gets complicated


We've been taught that everything will always keep going, that if we follow the rules, and pay for our own retirement, it'll all be fine. But that's not true anymore. The biggest problem i can see is this offshore bank accounts saga. It represents more wealth than actually exists, and it's in someone else's back pocket. Have you ever gotten back cash that was stolen? You can't, because possesion is the law.

The best thing i can do is keep aware and ready, to whatever extent possible. I really believe that there will be a massive hoax played on us all, and 90% off the people will believe it, and 10% will be removed. Whichever way it unfolds, i will not be the 90%.
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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:04 AM
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Have you looked at the thread from 2006 by a guy on here (or at least was on here) called "Dark Knight"? This thread.His name is significant, and it would seem to tie into Blue Beam (if such a thing exists). Having read up on both, I found it a little alarming to see the subtext to the film "The Dark Knight Rises"... not to mention what the name of the film infers.

If it were true, then as you say, there will be one hell of a hoax, the likes of which we've never seen before. Without foreknowledge of the possibility, any normal person would buy it hook line and sinker. Even with foreknowledge, it might be difficult to override.

I hope that such things are not true... but who knows what level of science and technology is hidden behind closed doors. Magic to the average joe I'm sure.

In fact, it might have been you who pointed me in that direction in the false flag thread!
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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Oct 28th, 2011 has come and gone, and even saying that name will attract the wrong attention on here.

But yes, that



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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Oct 28th, 2011 has come and gone, and even saying that name will attract the wrong attention on here.

But yes, that


LOL. Oh I'm not concerned with what anyone else thinks... that is their concern.

Despite my feelings on the Olympic "threat", I take dates with a pinch of salt. It is the content of the thread that interests me.
Well anyways, only time will tell I guess. But from what I have seen, things (big events) seem to align themselves with cosmological events (and usually ones that most people aren't that aware of). To the outside, such things are a coincidence, irrelevant... but I get the feeling that behind the scenes, the cosmological events are what dictate the timings from the outset.

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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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ive thought this very thing many times, but what about the underground civilizations that supposedly exist? wouldnt the elites already have places to stay, with technology and medicine? also- space travel seems obviously directed towards moving off the planet, so what if they're already to that point? I mean, the moon would be a great place to watch a pole shift......i think that's where all the money went- to the secret space program. and they must be making those ships out of pure gold...............




posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 10:49 AM
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Well if this theory is true, then it's like elite are creating a little "hell" underground matching the
descriptions of being dark and in flames in the the bible whilst heaven is the surface of earth
with light piercing the sky's and etc. Alternatively those underground cities are for us, an enslavement
camp that will activate through a world wide false flag (UFO).
enough brain storming from me for now lol.
Edit to add: Underground cities can also explain why infrastructural improvement
technological is quite slow. I mean look at the film blade runner and look outside.
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