Originally posted by tothetenthpowerSo this law really, it's just going to inconvenience people for no reason?
As from what I can gather, criminals dont' get their guns or ammo legally anyway right? So what is the point of all these gun control laws if they do
nothing to prevent the problem?
It's absolutely going to only be an inconvenience for law-adbiding people and not affect criminals in any way, shape, or form. Most (if not all) of
the anti-gun legislation is stupid, but this bill might be the dumbest one yet.
I, like one of the previous posters, live out in the sticks. About the only place around here to find ammo is the local Wal-Mart, which sells
'standard' caliber hunting rounds like .30-06, 7mm Rem mag, .270, .243, and a few others. In the calibers they do carry, they only usually have one
or two bullet weights/types, which further limits your options. I hunt elk and deer with a 7mm Rem Mag. I can get some rounds at Wal-Mart, but their
selection isn't very good so I've taken to reloading those. Sometimes, I like to use my SKS for deer. The 7.62x39 round is really common if you're
in a big city....but then it's usually 100 different kinds of garbage, inaccurate military surplus stuff and maybe one box of Federal soft point
'hunting' rounds. Not much selection. But, I can get pretty decent, brass cased reasonably accurate rounds in bulk online. I have a choice of
bullet types, weights, manufacturer, etc.
This is all a knee-jerk response to the Aurora thing. Let's look at how stupid this really is:
1) First objection is that Holmes bought '6000 rounds of ammo through the mail.' His AR15 shoots a 5.56mm round. One of the most common rounds out
there. Even if you're going to restrict it to, say, 100 rounds per sale, Holmes could've just as easily spent an hour each day over the course of a
week hopping from Gander Mountain to Bass Pro to Sportsman's Warehouse (all in Denver) and had way more than 6000 rounds in his possession without
ever hitting the 'flag' limit.
2)Lots and lots of people have more than 6000 rounds in their possession at any given time. People like me who hunt and have goofball caliber rifles,
people who sport shoot, and people who just want to stockpile due to prices or whatever. Now we have to create a bureaucracy to keep track of people
like me in order to completely fail at preventing anything.
3) If you reload, like I do, you can manufacture a whole lot more than 6000 rounds in virtually no time at all. So now, in addition to the actual
complete rounds, they'll also have to restrict the online sale of bullets, primers, and brass. More bureaucracy to prevent nothing.
4) This is a big one: Even if really restrictive laws were in place, it wouldn't have stopped the Aurora thing AT ALL. Holmes is an upper
middle-class white kid with disposable income, absolutely no criminal record, and enrolled in an upper tier grad program. He's the last guy that
would set off any flags anywhere at any time. Unless, of course, the ATF is going to track every single sale of every single thing even peripherally
related to firearms. Furthermore, the kid allegedly knew how to build sophisticated bombs and homemade grenades out of household materials. So now
what? Are you going to make gasoline illegal? Mason jars?
5) Holmes didn't shoot 6000 rounds. He shot a couple hundred at most. So, the number of rounds in his possession is entirely irrelevant. If he had
shot 6000 rounds and killed 4000 people using forty 100 round drum mags in rapid succession (rifle would've melted before then anyway), then maybe
there's a discussion. But that's not what happened.
6) If you're talking about something like the Mexican cartels or even the gangs in the United States, those guys aren't buying Winchester white box
ammo at the local Wal-Mart. They're buying mil-surp stuff shipped in under the radar through various illegal arms networks. Again, this legislation
would do absolutely nothing to curb that.
edit on 31-7-2012 by samcrow because: (no reason given)