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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 12:52 AM
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Originally posted by LeSigh

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

Let's see- not during the Parade or the block party- and some of us have legitimate reasons for being in the area no matter the time of year. Also, no one should have to deal with seeing multiple couples engaging in PDA on the level of 'get a room' at a coffee shop in the morning. Some gay people are parents too- and I really don't think they'd want their own kids exposed to that either. At some point it ceased to be about PRIDE or equal rights and extended into obnoxiousness.


So what.

Its once a year.



Silly me for expecting others to respect public space the way I do, eh? Some want respect but aren't willing to give it in return, I reckon. What an absolute shame.


well why don't you just go somewhere else? This has been the prevailing argument from one side of the fence.
If the gays could simply have taken a hike to another shop whats so difficult about you going somewhere else ?


Oh whats that it would be an inconvenience to you and why should you have to leave? riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight right




posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by paganini

Originally posted by LeSigh

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

Let's see- not during the Parade or the block party- and some of us have legitimate reasons for being in the area no matter the time of year. Also, no one should have to deal with seeing multiple couples engaging in PDA on the level of 'get a room' at a coffee shop in the morning. Some gay people are parents too- and I really don't think they'd want their own kids exposed to that either. At some point it ceased to be about PRIDE or equal rights and extended into obnoxiousness.


So what.

Its once a year.



Silly me for expecting others to respect public space the way I do, eh? Some want respect but aren't willing to give it in return, I reckon. What an absolute shame.


well why don't you just go somewhere else? This has been the prevailing argument from one side of the fence.
If the gays could simply have taken a hike to another shop whats so difficult about you going somewhere else ?


Oh whats that it would be an inconvenience to you and why should you have to leave? riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight right


Your argument might have more merit if I had even remotely said that. Perhaps you should read the posts of others with more diligence, mmm?



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by LeSigh

Silly me for expecting others to respect public space the way I do, eh? Some want respect but aren't willing to give it in return, I reckon. What an absolute shame.


Yeah - Silly You.

LGBTQ is a minority group - - with little or no protection against discrimination and inequality.

Through the ages they were forced by society to live on the "fringe" and create their own culture.

Once a year. Deal with it.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by LeSigh

Originally posted by paganini

Originally posted by LeSigh

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

Let's see- not during the Parade or the block party- and some of us have legitimate reasons for being in the area no matter the time of year. Also, no one should have to deal with seeing multiple couples engaging in PDA on the level of 'get a room' at a coffee shop in the morning. Some gay people are parents too- and I really don't think they'd want their own kids exposed to that either. At some point it ceased to be about PRIDE or equal rights and extended into obnoxiousness.


So what.

Its once a year.



Silly me for expecting others to respect public space the way I do, eh? Some want respect but aren't willing to give it in return, I reckon. What an absolute shame.


well why don't you just go somewhere else? This has been the prevailing argument from one side of the fence.
If the gays could simply have taken a hike to another shop whats so difficult about you going somewhere else ?


Oh whats that it would be an inconvenience to you and why should you have to leave? riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight right


Your argument might have more merit if I had even remotely said that. Perhaps you should read the posts of others with more diligence, mmm?


it has plenty of merit


Now you said it was an extreme display of PDA but granted this your own opinion. Some people could see the simplest physical affections and think its too much while others don't even see it as a big deal which in turn leads to the possibility that many people may see you as merely overreacting in this instance.

In either case you could have simply went elsewhere and its no big deal



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:04 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

Silly me for expecting others to respect public space the way I do, eh? Some want respect but aren't willing to give it in return, I reckon. What an absolute shame.


Yeah - Silly You.

LGBTQ is a minority group - - with little or no protection against discrimination and inequality.

Through the ages they were forced by society to live on the "fringe" and create their own culture.

Once a year. Deal with it.



My argument has nothing to do with gay rights. It has to do with rude people and the fact that it shouldn't matter what time of year it is to exhibit good manners.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by LeSigh

My argument has nothing to do with gay rights. It has to do with rude people and the fact that it shouldn't matter what time of year it is to exhibit good manners.


Rude would be not letting the LGBTQ culture - - - do their thing once a year.

Exhibit good manners in a heterosexual way? Is that the same as telling a black person to act white?

The part you don't get is - - it is its own culture.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

My argument has nothing to do with gay rights. It has to do with rude people and the fact that it shouldn't matter what time of year it is to exhibit good manners.


Rude would be not letting the LGBTQ culture - - - do their thing once a year.

Exhibit good manners in a heterosexual way? Is that the same as telling a black person to act white?

The part you don't get is - - it is its own culture.



You're spouting rubbish. Good manners transcends sexual orientation. Unless you're saying that you hold no expectations of good manners in a public space/business when it comes to homosexuals? That's truly offensive. And- not all gays enjoy the adult club culture atmosphere and they shouldn't have to feel guilty about not being comfortable in it.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:18 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready

My answer is that if someone wants to form a legal partnership to get the government benefits, then it is a business transaction. They should file the proper paperwork to form the partnership, and that paperwork would provide them tax benefits, next-of-kin status, healthcare decision making, etc. It shouldn't matter if they are straight or homo, and it shouldn't matter if they are young or old, same-sex, or opposite, etc. If we created that right, then it would benefit homosexual partners and it would benefit old ladies living together taking care of each other, and it would benefit good buddies like the movie "I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry." It would take all the dishonesty out of it.


Ummmmm, people already take advantage of marriage now. Lol. Have you never heard of "marriage of convenience?" Its really popular among elderly people, they get married purely for the economic benefits, insurance, etc. They are just friends, sleep in separate beds and everything. But because they are straight they get to be married. Also, immigrants get "married" to become citizens. People have been exploiting marriage forever.

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BUT, the Tradition of "marriage" in a church, by a preacher, for the purpose of beginning a new life, as a couple is still alive and well. I think we should let the churches keep that tradition. Give them the word, make it a spiritual word, and completely separate it from the legal partnership.


Even if a separate legal term was create by the government for everyone and marriage was no longer used, gay people would still get married. Some churches do allow gay couples to get married before "god" and their families. Not to mention gay churches who it goes without saying will do the same. So the word "marriage" will never be for just a man and woman no matter how much people want it to be.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:25 AM
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It's own culture? LOL! I could not help thinking of an archaeologist digging up a fossilized gay guy in assless chaps! LOL ROTFLMAO! With a dog collor and a leash. ... Student: ....."Was he a slave Professor" LOL!



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:26 AM
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If businesses reserve the right to refuse to serve people who don't wear shirts or shoes, they pretty much have the right to refuse service to anyone.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by murphy22
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It's own culture? LOL! I could not help thinking of an archaeologist digging up a fossilized gay guy in assless chaps! LOL ROTFLMAO! With a dog collor and a leash. ... Student: ....."Was he a slave Professor" LOL!


Dude -- don't post to me.

I will not respond to you.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:29 AM
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Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

I agree. I happened to be in the Hillcrest area of San Diego during Pride this year. Did I care? No. However, there were multiple public scenarios of PDA, such as, multiple gay couples making out all over the effing Starbucks on Sunday morning, just as an example. Excessive PDA is disturbing to see no matter who is doing it- and I hate to say it- but I have never seen heterosexual PDA to such an exaggerated and unnecessary extent as I saw that weekend in the gay community.


Do you feel the same way about Mardi Gras?


So.. the poster said he didn't like to see so many gay people making out in public at S.F.'s gay pride and you equate that to Mardi Gras? Obviously, you are not from New Orleans nor have you frequented many Mardi Gras.

Here's a fact Ms Socialist, You don't see blatant homosexual public display of affection at Mardi Gras. It doesn't happen. Gays for the most part in New Orleans are more civilized than that and know when to keep their business in private as a courtesy to others. There are families with small children at Mardi Gras that don't need to be exposed to that kind of rubbish publicly and the gays respect this. I know this, I have been going to Mardi Gras for over 40 years.

You might see a little of it in certain gay circles during Mardi Gras, but no more than you'd see anywhere else in those same circles. It's not like the Gay Pride as you make it out to be.

We do have our own festival just for gays called the Decadence festival. This festival is restricted to a few small blocks of the French Quarter where it is kept away from the eyes of small children or those adults who don't wish to see the gays.

Btw, you can be socialist if you like hurting your citizens and being on the losing side. Look at history, no socialist government ever worked like it was thought to work. Look at France and other socialist countries today. They are having tons of trouble and the citizens are suffering because the system simply doesn't work.

In fact, the only leader in history that did make a form of socialism work and it worked better than any other government to bring the people prosperity, was Hitler in pre WW II Germany. The Zionists had oppressed the German people through corrupting the financial system and Hitler said Screw You and devised his own methods for getting the people back to work and back to a good standard of living. He was able in a few short years to make Germany more prosperous than they had even been. The Zionists couldn't have this, so they infiltrated the national socialist party and created the Nazi's where they again took back control of the system ( as well as kill thousands of fellow Jews who didn't agree with the Jewish Zionists views) Hitler was the greatest patriot to his country. His shortcomings aside, he did do a lot of good and his efforts in these matters should be studied, embraced and used by all countries under the thumb of Zionistic financial control, like the USA. Hitlers ideas could make this and any other country prosperous again.
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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by LeSigh

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

My argument has nothing to do with gay rights. It has to do with rude people and the fact that it shouldn't matter what time of year it is to exhibit good manners.


Rude would be not letting the LGBTQ culture - - - do their thing once a year.

Exhibit good manners in a heterosexual way? Is that the same as telling a black person to act white?

The part you don't get is - - it is its own culture.



You're spouting rubbish.


No I am not spouting rubbish.

You are ignorant of the LGBTQ culture - - - and want them to adhere to your hetero concept of proper behavior.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
You don't see blatant homosexual public display of affection at Mardi Gras.


I never said you did.

You do see blatant heterosexual public displays of affection.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by murphy22
reply to post by Annee
 


It's own culture? LOL! I could not help thinking of an archaeologist digging up a fossilized gay guy in assless chaps! LOL ROTFLMAO! With a dog collor and a leash. ... Student: ....."Was he a slave Professor" LOL!


Classy.

Anyways. I am sure you don't believe this but it's the truth. Gay people are people. People are very diverse. All the diversity you see among heterosexuals you will see in the gay culture. That will manifest itself in similar ways.. fashion, hobbies, beliefs, personal mannerisms, etc etc. You have probably met many gay people you mistakenly thought were heterosexual.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by JohnPhoenix

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

I agree. I happened to be in the Hillcrest area of San Diego during Pride this year. Did I care? No. However, there were multiple public scenarios of PDA, such as, multiple gay couples making out all over the effing Starbucks on Sunday morning, just as an example. Excessive PDA is disturbing to see no matter who is doing it- and I hate to say it- but I have never seen heterosexual PDA to such an exaggerated and unnecessary extent as I saw that weekend in the gay community.


Do you feel the same way about Mardi Gras?


So.. the poster said he didn't like to see so many gay people making out in public at S.F.'s gay pride and you equate that to Mardi Gras? Obviously, you are not from New Orleans nor have you frequented many Mardi Gras.

Here's a fact Ms Socialist, You don't see blatant homosexual public display of affection at Mardi Gras. It doesn't happen. Gays for the most part in New Orleans are more civilized than that and know when to keep their business in private as a courtesy to others. There are families with small children at Mardi Gras that don't need to be exposed to that kind of rubbish publicly and the gays respect this. I know this, I have been going to Mardi Gras for over 40 years.

You might see a little of it in certain gay circles during Mardi Gras, but no more than you'd see anywhere else in those same circles. It's not like the Gay Pride as you make it out to be.

We do have our own festival just for gays called the Decadence festival. This festival is restricted to a few small blocks of the French Quarter where it is kept away from the eyes of small children or those adults who don't wish to see the gays.

Btw, you can be socialist if you like hurting your citizens and being on the losing side. Look at history, no socialist government ever worked like it was thought to work. Look at France and other socialist countries today. They are having tons of trouble and the citizens are suffering because the system simply doesn't work.


uh anne correct me if im wrong but you were talking about the hetero pda and boob flashing and what not in mardi gra ?


edit yep i was right lol
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posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:34 AM
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I know, simple huh? Some people just can't stand the fact others have the right to not except them. Their not at all tolerant. And they hate with extreme pregidous those that don't tolerate there subculture behavior.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:36 AM
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You don't see blatant homosexual public display of affection at Mardi Gras. It doesn't happen. Gays for the most part in New Orleans are more civilized than that and know when to keep their business in private as a courtesy to others.


Would two guys kissing in public be a blatant display in your eyes? Not making out, just a few seconds of french kissing.



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by murphy22
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I know, simple huh? Some people just can't stand the fact others have the right to not except them. Their not at all tolerant. And they hate with extreme pregidous those that don't tolerate there subculture behavior.


Yeah some. Some people. Meaning not all. Or did you intend the word different than its meaning?



posted on Aug, 1 2012 @ 01:42 AM
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I've been to Long Beach Pride a couple times. I believe it is one of the largest Gay Pride's in the US.

While there were a handful of those in the extreme - - - most were just every day people and families. How about I focus on them.





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