Lakewood (Colorado) Cake Shop Refuses Wedding Cake To Gay Couple.

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Most sound people do not get emotional about such things. I got kicked out of a coffee shop for having mud all over me from work. Lived in a muddy state as it was. I could have pulled the socialist/union I'm a working man crap, but I didn't. It was their place, their right to ask me to leave. Would I have done that if it was reversed? No. But you know what? I don't go there any more.. My right also.

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They were "childish" enough to blab to the whole world how they were mistreated instead of quietly finding another establishment that could fulfill their needs. No, instead they basically screamed "oppression!" and knew other irrational bleeding hearts would rush to their aid and take up the cause. I am not religious, and was very tolerant towards the gay community until about 5 years ago. They have become militant, in your face and hate filled. If you don't embrace them totally and have any differing opinion, you are a right wing demon bigot racist! As a former registered democrat, (now no party) and being not religious, I find it amusing to be lumped into their little category that anyone that doesn't worship them fall into.
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I do!!

Originally posted by murphy22
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Most sound people do not get emotional about such things. I got kicked out of a coffee shop for having mud all over me from work. Lived in a muddy state as it was. I could have pulled the socialist/union I'm a working man crap, but I didn't. It was their place, their right to ask me to leave. Would I have done that if it was reversed? No. But you know what? I don't go there any more.. My right also.

Muddy people are now an official minority discriminated against?

I wouldn't want a dirty person in a place where I eat.

Originally posted by murphy22
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Most sound people do not get emotional about such things. I got kicked out of a coffee shop for having mud all over me from work. Lived in a muddy state as it was. I could have pulled the socialist/union I'm a working man crap, but I didn't. It was their place, their right to ask me to leave. Would I have done that if it was reversed? No. But you know what? I don't go there any more.. My right also.

so youre comparing being dirty to being gay? that just it though you were possibly dirtying up their store therefore giving them a logical reason to want to you leave. the gay coupe however provided no such reason,

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I like the slick catch phrases, "Tolerance," "Hate," "Homophobe" (like your afraid of them).... etc. When you, never think about their life style until you see two guys sucking face on the street corner. Never seen them stoned, beaten, called names, But when someone refuses to bake a gay cake? Oh lord! Their a cake NAZI! We can't tolerate that!

Society should refuse service of everything to all gays hopefully they'll go back n the closet

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Mach 1! Over your head>>>>>>>

Originally posted by VikingWarlord
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They were "childish" enough to blab to the whole world how they were mistreated instead of quietly finding another establishment that could fulfill their needs. No, instead they basically screamed "oppression!" and knew other irrational bleeding hearts would rush to their aid and take up the cause.

and this is the same bs attitude people had towards colored folks. stop your bitchin and why cant you go somewhere else with your own kind. It is amusing people here aren't bright enough to see this.

Originally posted by VikingWarlordI am not religious, and was very tolerant towards the gay community until about 5 years ago. They have become militant, in your face and hate filled. If you don't embrace them totally and have any differing opinion, you are a right wing demon bigot racist! As a former registered democrat, (now no party) and being not religious, I find it amusing to be lumped into their little category that anyone that doesn't worship them fall into.

So because you met a few annoying militant gays you now dislike the entire gay community? Stop and look at this logically. There's millions of homosexuals and you only met a incredibly small fraction of them in your life yet your going to have your experience with them lead you to generalize the entire population.

I assume if enough people from a certain group annoy this group then goes on your dislike list as well?

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

I agree. I happened to be in the Hillcrest area of San Diego during Pride this year. Did I care? No. However, there were multiple public scenarios of PDA, such as, multiple gay couples making out all over the effing Starbucks on Sunday morning, just as an example. Excessive PDA is disturbing to see no matter who is doing it- and I hate to say it- but I have never seen heterosexual PDA to such an exaggerated and unnecessary extent as I saw that weekend in the gay community.

Do you feel the same way about Mardi Gras?

If unnecessary PDA is going on there- then yes. I've never been to Mardi Gras and don't plan to. What part of exaggerated, unnecessary, and massive amounts of PDA being disturbing to witness do you not understand?

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If it was just a basic cake no probably not. But if they wanted "Adam and Steve on your wedding day blah, blah, blah..... and it was against Their beliefe system to do that well then yes they were. No one should be forced to do what their own conscience won't allow them to do. If you can't understand why they may think it would be wrong to do that. That fine. But don't force people to go against their beliefs. I would not force you to agree with me even if I could. Because that would be wrong of me.

Originally posted by LeSigh

If unnecessary PDA is going on there- then yes. I've never been to Mardi Gras and don't plan to. What part of exaggerated, unnecessary, and massive amounts of PDA being disturbing to witness do you not understand?

Guess you definitely wouldn't like Mardi Gras.

Let's see - - - Pride Parade - - once a year. Place and Times publicly/media announced.

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See! You are already equating me to a "racist" akin to the whites who used to miss-treat the blacks in the old days huh? Thank you for proving my point exactly, and in such a timely manner. What happened to the blacks was terrible, but they were mistreated for their race, something that is not a choice. Everyone has a choice in who they sleep with, and not everyone agrees on what is acceptable and what is not. Some farmers like sheep I'm sure, some chicks let their doberman "ride" them, so keep it to yourself what you do in the bedroom. Why broadcast it to the world and demand acceptance? Also, equating the gay struggle to the civil rights movement is delusional and surely offensive to many who lived through that hell.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

Originally posted by Annee
If unnecessary PDA is going on there- then yes. I've never been to Mardi Gras and don't plan to. What part of exaggerated, unnecessary, and massive amounts of PDA being disturbing to witness do you not understand?

Guess you definitely wouldn't like Mardi Gras.

Let's see - - - Pride Parade - - once a year.

Let's see- not during the Parade or the block party- and some of us have legitimate reasons for being in the area no matter the time of year. Also, no one should have to deal with seeing multiple couples engaging in PDA on the level of 'get a room' at a coffee shop in the morning. Some gay people are parents too- and I really don't think they'd want their own kids exposed to that either. At some point it ceased to be about PRIDE or equal rights and extended into obnoxiousness.

Originally posted by LeSigh

Let's see- not during the Parade or the block party- and some of us have legitimate reasons for being in the area no matter the time of year. Also, no one should have to deal with seeing multiple couples engaging in PDA on the level of 'get a room' at a coffee shop in the morning. Some gay people are parents too- and I really don't think they'd want their own kids exposed to that either. At some point it ceased to be about PRIDE or equal rights and extended into obnoxiousness.

So what.

Its once a year.

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+1 Exactly!

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by LeSigh

Let's see- not during the Parade or the block party- and some of us have legitimate reasons for being in the area no matter the time of year. Also, no one should have to deal with seeing multiple couples engaging in PDA on the level of 'get a room' at a coffee shop in the morning. Some gay people are parents too- and I really don't think they'd want their own kids exposed to that either. At some point it ceased to be about PRIDE or equal rights and extended into obnoxiousness.

So what.

Its once a year.

Silly me for expecting others to respect public space the way I do, eh? Some want respect but aren't willing to give it in return, I reckon. What an absolute shame.

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I can agree with this! Goes for all adults though regardless of persuasion.

Originally posted by VikingWarlord
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See! You are already equating me to a "racist" akin to the whites who used to miss-treat the blacks in the old days huh?

No I'm comparing your attitude to the same bigotry that was displayed towards coloured people. By all means feel free to show me how this isnt a logical comparison

oh wait you did try here

Originally posted by VikingWarlordThank you for proving my point exactly, and in such a timely manner. What happened to the blacks was terrible, but they were mistreated for their race, something that is not a choice. Everyone has a choice in who they sleep with, and not everyone agrees on what is acceptable and what is not.

No I'm sorry homosexuality is not a choice and we have overwhelming scientific and empirical evidence to prove this as fact. But nice try what else you got?

Originally posted by VikingWarlordWhy broadcast it to the world and demand acceptance?

Because heterosexuals get to be openly heterosexual therefore gay should as well. Its called EQUALITY BUB. AGAIN your "oh you people should just keep it secret" retort is the same bigoted response that was used to any sort of race. religion etc,etc that wasnt accepted in society

Originally posted by VikingWarlordAlso, equating the gay struggle to the civil rights movement is delusional and surely offensive to many who lived through that hell.

well im sure someone who thinks homosexuality is a choice is well brushed up on the gay rights movement and the discrimination those people faced.

reply to post by VikingWarlord

You can't change your race, but you can choose who you sleep with. Equating denying service to people of a differing sexual orientation vs color of your skin as the same is absurd.

This type of extreme black or white thinking has always puzzled me. You make it sound so simple..

Yes technically to act it out is a choice. Heterosexual people acting out heterosexuality is a choice. Or a lifestyle if you will. Heterosexual orientation however is not a choice, it is innate nature. Something you will feel all day everyday....especially if it's suppressed. Case in point, imagine being celibate. This would be extremely difficult for most heterosexuals would it not? It's the same for homosexuals, or bisexuals..

Brushing sexuality off as 'oh hey they have a choice' as though it were so easily suppressed is what's absurd.