Utah Safe Haven Village Project, page 1


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Topic started on 31-7-2012 @ 08:15 AM by Mary Rose
I closely follow the work of Sterling Allan of Pure Energy Systems. I've discovered recently his association with the Utah Safe Haven Village Project:

Though a primary impetus for starting the community is to prepare for societal meltdown in the United States, those involved in the community look at this more as an opportunity to finally live the way they've been dreaming and talking for years. In other words, this is not an interim, transient condition, but it is to be a model for more enlightened living, both with the land and with each other. The community will aim to be off-grid as much as possible using sustainable techniques.


Regarding Allan's association with the project:

His home in Eagle Mountain, which was sold on Oct. 28, 2009, was rolled over via a 1031 exchange to help secure the land for the community, as well as for some building materials for a replacement home in the community, relying on the community to provide labor for the balance of the value.


This YouTube video is about the project:



I find this very inspirational.


reply posted on 31-7-2012 @ 08:41 AM by Mary Rose
I'm trying to find up-to-date information.

I see this entry on the website page I cited:

In the News

Communities > Safe Haven Villages >
We made it to 'Best Places to Live Off the Grid' - Our intentional community project, Safe Haven Villages, is being featured at MSN as one of ten "Best Places to Live Off the Grid". I think it was our mention of "wanting to power the community with something more exotic than just solar or wind, such as cold fusion" that got us on that list, even though we don't have any official dwellings yet. (MSN; December 26, 2011)


I'll be looking for more news since December 2011.


reply posted on 31-7-2012 @ 09:58 AM by Mary Rose
From a Deseret News article about the project:

Utahns creating a sustainable, off grid community

By Gina Barker, Deseret News
Published: Friday, Aug. 13 2010 12:33 a.m. MDT

SPRING CITY, Sanpete County — Heaving the flat slate stones into place along a low wall, James Torgersen seems comfortable in the wilder reaches of Sanpete County.

. . . Safe Haven founders will have to convince Sanpete County officials that non-traditional amenities like dry mulch toilets are safe alternatives to septic tanks, and they'll need to come up with enough money to buy the necessary water rights for the 18-home project they envision.

In the meantime, they're buying water rights for four homes and waiting to present a minor subdivision plan for the project's first phase. And they've been hard at work building the structures that don't require permits.

"This is an evolving project," said community member Sterling Allan. "We're trying to do as much as we can now."

The goal for the community is much larger than that. Torgersen hopes to incorporate as many sustainable techniques into the community plans as possible. Whether it's collecting rainwater, building greenhouses or using solar energy, Torgersen hopes to turn the wild property into a place where people can come to practice total self-sustainability.

. . . "People like me research the building codes and find out how to do things the right way," Torgersen said. "We can build all these legally."

The system isn't meant to support sustainable living practices, he said. Even freely collecting rainwater wasn't possible until July 1 under Utah law.

Now, Safe Haven residents will have to convince state and county officials that filtering the water with sand and charcoal is acceptable.

The Allans and Torgersen are hoping to change the way legislators and Americans think about modern life and what is sustainable.

"Let's simplify," Torgersen said. "We've gotten way too complicated."



reply posted on 3-8-2012 @ 03:06 PM by sterlingda
reply to post by Mary Rose



Thanks for your interest in our SafeHavenVillages.org... project.

It definitely has been an interesting ride so far.

We got our well dug a couple of years ago. Don't have any homes built yet. Have a couple of earth-based sheds largely done. While being literally dirt-cheap, they are very labor-intensive to build.

The GrowUtahFirst.com... project that has been leasing part of the land to build some peswiki.com...:Walipini_Underground_Greenhouses structures has had people living on the land in the last two summers, but has yet to complete a structure.

The dynamics of the community are something you would find in a reality series; and in fact, we have a reality show that may do a few segments on our project.

Good thing things haven't fallen apart yet. We're not even close to being ready.


reply posted on 25-8-2012 @ 09:10 AM by Mary Rose
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You must be Sterling D. Allan himself.

Originally posted by sterlingda
The dynamics of the community are something you would find in a reality series; and in fact, we have a reality show that may do a few segments on our project.


I can imagine. Nothing is more challenging than dealing with human nature.

I have a question about your shed.



Due to associations with reptilians and the Illuminati, I'm wondering why a dragon was chosen for decoration for the shed?


reply posted on 2-10-2012 @ 08:23 AM by sterlingda
reply to post by Mary Rose



You have to remember that all things have opposites. Yin/Yang. For every negative meaning, there is a positive opposite, and vice versa. I lived an example of that a few years back. The address for my house was 666 S.

Take the word "cleave." We are to cleave or adhere to our spouse and none other. Yet the word "cleave" also means to utterly separate, as in cleaver.

Sterling


reply posted on 2-10-2012 @ 10:03 AM by Mary Rose
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Thanks!

I see the source is HowStuffWorks. Here's their article "How to Find Water in the Wild" but it's not the one that includes your image. Can you link to it?


reply posted on 2-10-2012 @ 11:52 AM by JohnPhoenix
reply to post by Dizrael



Thanks Dizrael, I missed her question.

People talk about these techniques in the Survival forum all the time. Watching many of the popular survival tv shows will instruct you on more of them. Shows like Man vs Wild, Man Woman Wild, Dual Survival etc. As long as the sun shines and there is humidity in the air you can collect water - both by day and night. By day because the sun acts as a direct heat source and by night because of the heat rising off of the Earth that the sun had heated up during the day. Both work by condensation. In the wide open spaces in the desert you can make many large solar stills or collect morning dew from trees and brush, enough to gather many gallons of water a day.

Finding water in the desert: crisistimes.com...
Wilderness Survival: Water procurement: www.wilderness-survival.net...

Dizrael's picture above came from here, the second page in that How To: adventure.howstuffworks.com...
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reply posted on 6-10-2012 @ 09:28 AM by sterlingda
reply to post by JohnPhoenix



I keep my links for such things here: http://(link tracking not allowed)/R13Buq

There are satellite-based Internet providers who are likely to stay going when TSHTF.

For our power, we hope that by the time we build, there will be a more Exotic Free Energy technology than solar or wind. I track the best ones I know of at Top5Energy.com...

Sterling
edit on 6-10-2012 by sterlingda because: url didn't work, so I replaced it with Bitly

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