The Church of Scientology and the Holmes Connection. , page 1

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Topic started on 30-7-2012 @ 09:53 PM by WarminIndy

I realized something the other day. Is it mere coincidence that James Holmes commits the senseless act of Aurora, Colorado theater shooting happened the same week that Katie Holmes announces divorce from Tom Cruise? Mere coincidence or conspiracy?

Let's just say for a moment this was a staged event, of course there would need to be a motive on the part of the conspirators who would frame James Holmes. So I set about to discover this.

Katie Holmes father is Martin Joseph Holmes, who incidentally works against anti-trust. Robert Holmes is a whistleblower against banks. Could that be a smoking gun?Martin Holmes

But that is merely a coincidence as Katie is from Toledo and James is from San Diego. But what I am proposing is this, Tom Cruise (in Iceland filming "Oblivion) is a long standing member of the Church of Scientology and is as well from Ohio as Katie is. Tom can be seen here replacing Christian Bale as Batman....
Tom Cruise as Batman

So what is this? The makers of this video warned us of the Holmes/Cruise/Batman connection and the world ignored it. How did they know this connection? Tom was dropped by Paramount so he lost the chance to be Batman and now is using the Church of Scientology to formulate this conspiracy against anyone remotely related to Katie. Of course, the Church of Scientology will not allow any evidence to be seen, that is why we have to connect the dots ourselves.

So things we do know...
1: Tom was set to play as Batman in this film.
2: The matching surnames of Katie and James.
3: Tom was conveniently in Iceland.
4: Katie was in Batman Begins.
5: Aurora is a song by Bjork, a singer from Iceland, where Tom is filming.

What is the connection besides coincidence?

I deeply feel for the victims of this senseless act of murder and pray for the families of the victims.

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 09:59 PM by thesmokingman

reply to post by WarminIndy

You do realize that Tom Cruise is NOT the leader of the church of scientology right? I beleive that this is quite the reach. Entertaining none the less.

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:01 PM by mainidh

Nah he did it because of the meteors. I know it, because this is a conspiracy website. He waited about 1.5 weeks before the meteor shower and that's what I'm still trying to work out... Why.

I don't know yet, but I'll make up enough crap to get it all to fit, and then you'll see.. I was RIGHT!

This is ATS, not a place for sane logic. It's where we make stuff up to play the game!

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:09 PM by Destinyone

reply to post by WarminIndy

You could've organized your garage with the time it took you to create this fantasy...or, your mother's basement,

I'm sorry. I'm just really tired of people trying to take the illogical act of a mentally disturbed *individual*, and turn it into something it is not.

Des

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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:10 PM by Wrabbit2000

C'mon... Katie Holmes? Tom Cruise? I know the Church of Scientology is said to have a core of leadership that is kinda scary to some, but really?

Next someone will be saying it's got something to do with an inferiority complex after watching a porn by John Holmes. Whats a guy to do but go postal in a local theater with that to compare to? Yikes!

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:12 PM by XeroOne

TOM CRUISE = 644 + 573 - 551 = 666
JAMES HOLMES = 854 + 127 - 315 = 666

Bugger me! A conspiracy!

See what I did there?

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:14 PM by Destinyone

Originally posted by XeroOne
TOM CRUISE = 644 + 573 - 551 = 666
JAMES HOLMES = 854 + 127 - 315 = 666

Bugger me! A conspiracy!

See what I did there?

Great...you just turned on the neon *welcome* sign for all the *you know who's* on ATS....

I'll get out the spool of twine to tie to their feet, so they don't float up to the ceiling and get stuck there....

Des

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:15 PM by WarminIndy

Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by WarminIndy

You could've organized your garage with the time it took you to create this fantasy...or, your mother's basement,

I'm sorry. I just really tired of people trying to take the illogical act of a mentally disturbed *individual*, and turn it into something it is not.

Des

Really this was all made up by me. But that is how a lot of conspiracy theories are formulated, by someone taking a random tidbit and embellishing on it. Did you really think I did a good enough job to make you believe that it is something I believe?

The guy is guilty, there is no doubt about that. I just pray for his victims.

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:16 PM by XeroOne

Originally posted by Destinyone

Originally posted by XeroOne
TOM CRUISE = 644 + 573 - 551 = 666
JAMES HOLMES = 854 + 127 - 315 = 666

Bugger me! A conspiracy!

See what I did there?

Great...you just turned on the neon *welcome* sign for all the *you know who's* on ATS....

I'll get out the spool of twine to tie to their feet, so they don't float up to the ceiling and get stuck there....

Des

I'll be gentle with them. Honest!

Really this was all made up by me. But that is how a lot of conspiracy theories are formulated, by someone taking a random tidbit and embellishing on it. Did you really think I did a good enough job to make you believe that it is something I believe?

Yes, for a few minutes I thought you were another poor soul to fall into the abyss of sanity-unravelling obsession. Mr Loughner, a rumoured member of ATS, fell into that abyss and he became a very naughty boy. No more stars for that dude.

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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:18 PM by Destinyone

reply to post by WarminIndy

If you are telling me, your OP was satirical....job well done....

Do I think there is anything in your OP to use a a springboard to any conspiracy...nope....

Des

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:18 PM by Wrabbit2000

reply to post by WarminIndy

First, let me say, I think that was well done and a point well made now that you say what this was.

Second.. I've seen this kind of thread a time or two before here..and the reactions have been amused to something that reminds me of a feeding frenzy among angry sharks off Florida.

Interesting thread. (puts helmet on to watch the show)

S/F....because I think it was done well indeed.

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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:20 PM by WarminIndy

Originally posted by Destinyone
reply to post by WarminIndy

If you are telling me, your OP was satirical....job well done....

Do I think there is anything in your OP to use a a springboard to any conspiracy...nope....

Des

It was completely satirical, and who knows, someone might springboard it. You never know how minds work.

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:21 PM by Destinyone

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by WarminIndy

First, let me say, I think that was well done and a point well made now that you say what this was.

Second.. I've seen this kind of thread a time or two before here..and the reactions have been amused to something that reminds me of a feeding frenzy among angry sharks off Florida.

Interesting thread. (puts helmet on to watch the show)

S/F....because I think it was done well indeed.

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Scooch over on the sofa Wrabbit...lookie what I brought...

Des

ETA. WarminIndy...you've earned a S&F for ingenuity...

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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:26 PM by WarminIndy

reply to post by Wrabbit2000

Oh, I was not even thinking about John Holmes, but he is from Ohio as well, I will see how to work him into the equation.

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:27 PM by XeroOne

I personally reckon Ronald McDonald was an evil CIA asset who supplied mind-altering nuggets and weapons to Holmes. The proof? - They both had bright red hair.

After encountering a 'Happy Meal' in the past, I knew there were no limits to what these evil bastards are capable of. With Ronald McDonald, the gloves are off, my friends.

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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:32 PM by WarminIndy

Originally posted by XeroOne
I personally reckon Ronald McDonald was an evil CIA asset who supplied mind-altering nuggets and weapons to Holmes. The proof? - They both had bright red hair.

After encountering a 'Happy Meal' in the past, I knew there were no limits to what these evil bastards are capable of. With Ronald McDonald, the gloves are off, my friends.
edit on 30-7-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

The red hair is more than a red herring, Wendy also has red hair and they sell chicken nuggets too.

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:36 PM by The GUT

Good one. I didn't get it until I clicked on the vid. Then I wuz purty sure you wuz foolin to make a germane point about it all. Hard to tell around here though.

YouTube Link

However...all lone gunmen should be vetted and looked at. Don't forget that Oswald guy...

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:36 PM by Destinyone

Originally posted by XeroOne
I personally reckon Ronald McDonald was an evil CIA asset who supplied mind-altering nuggets and weapons to Holmes. The proof? - They both had bright red hair.

After encountering a 'Happy Meal' in the past, I knew there were no limits to what these evil bastards are capable of. With Ronald McDonald, the gloves are off, my friends.
edit on 30-7-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

He started out so innocent...where did it all go wrong.....

Des

reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:38 PM by Destinyone

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by XeroOne
I personally reckon Ronald McDonald was an evil CIA asset who supplied mind-altering nuggets and weapons to Holmes. The proof? - They both had bright red hair.

After encountering a 'Happy Meal' in the past, I knew there were no limits to what these evil bastards are capable of. With Ronald McDonald, the gloves are off, my friends.
edit on 30-7-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

The red hair is more than a red herring, Wendy also has red hair and they sell chicken nuggets too.

So, it's the laced chicken nuggets, that's the common denominator....Good God, I think you're onto something....:

Des

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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:40 PM by XeroOne

Originally posted by WarminIndy

Originally posted by XeroOne
I personally reckon Ronald McDonald was an evil CIA asset who supplied mind-altering nuggets and weapons to Holmes. The proof? - They both had bright red hair.

After encountering a 'Happy Meal' in the past, I knew there were no limits to what these evil bastards are capable of. With Ronald McDonald, the gloves are off, my friends.
edit on 30-7-2012 by XeroOne because: (no reason given)

The red hair is more than a red herring, Wendy also has red hair and they sell chicken nuggets too.

Wendy was filling a niche market, and there was one, as old Ronald was simply too f*cked up for children's fragile minds to handle. He was pretty much in the same league as Charles Manson.

@DestinyOne: That picture genuinely scared the sh!t out of me for a second. I bet the parents sat alone at night saying "God have mercy on my soul. I have given birth to a monster." Never again must this happen. We mustn't give into these forces of evil. You hear me? Never!

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