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I don't know why either. I say that to all the people I love and respect. Everybody knows that's what you say to people you don't hate.
like why can't I just say --- Israel in public, without being considered "hateful".
I'd hate to dislike Jews for the wrong reason.
First off, being a Jew...is a RELIGION. A Black person can be Jewish (Sammy Davis Jr). If you don't like Jews...it has nothing to do with RACE, it has to do with Religion!
And how should a Religion carry themselves?
It has to do with how the Religion carries themselves
You probably won them over by saying "F Israel," loudly and clearly. I think I'll go down to my synagogue and see how it works for me.
I have plenty of friends that are Jewish...
Yup, that's the ticket, offend a Jew and then put 'em in their place.
If a Jewish person get's offended, put them in their place. . .
Addressing this issue responsibly risks rebuke, ostracism, or job loss. For some, it's a career ender. Scoundrel media writers and broadcasters are vulnerable. So are university professors. Joel Kovel lost his Bard College position for writing books like "Overcoming Zionism" and calling Israel "a machine for the manufacture of human rights abuses." DePaul University denied Norman Finkelstein tenure. It then fired him for speaking out and writing books like "The Holocaust Industry." Political activism and honesty about the Israeli/Palestinian conflict also cost tenured professor Denis Rancourt his University of Ottawa job. UCLA Professor David Delgado Shorter's now targeted. His academic freedom's at stake. On April 4, department chair Professor Angelia Leung rebuked him. She said his web site was being reviewed for posting inappropriate material pertaining to the academic and cultural boycott of Israel. More on that below.
Republican members of the Senate are planning to introduce police-state- style "thought control" legislation designed to prohibit criticism of Israel on American college campuses. The third-ranking Republican member of the U.S. Senate, conservative Rick Santorum (Pa.), plans to introduce so-called "ideological diversity" legislation that would cut federal funding for thousands of American colleges and universities if those institutions are found to be permitting professors, students and student organizations to openly criticize Israel, which Santorum considers to be an act of "anti-Semitism." Santorum wants to rewrite the federal funding formula under Title IX of the Higher Education Act to include "ideological diversity" as well as sexual equality in education as a perquisite for federal funding. Joining Santorum is another Senate conservative GOP stalwart -- and a leading pro-Israel ideologue -- Sen. Sam Brownback (Kan.) who has his own scheme to call for a federal commission -- critics call it a "tribunal" to be established under Title IX to "investigate" anti-Semitic incidents on American campuses.
I'll say it loud.. --- Israel!
tell them to apply for citizenship in Israel and go fight that war by themselves if it's that important to them.
Originally posted by JRockABM
I've wondered why in the US, it is considered "antisemitic" to publicly speak out about Israel, like why can't I just say ---- Israel in public, without being considered "hateful".
Truth is, most Americans....even Jewish Americans DON'T know the difference between a Religion and a Nation! I currently live in Los Angeles which has a HUGE Jewish population. I have plenty of friends that are Jewish...but WHY is the DEFINITIONS so cloudy when it comes to the Jewish culture. First off, being a Jew...is a RELIGION. A Black person can be Jewish (Sammy Davis Jr). If you don't like Jews...it has nothing to do with RACE, it has to do with Religion! It has to do with how the Religion carries themselves...It has nothing to do with skin color or where you were born!
As for Israel, the topic of this thread, I think American need to wake up...and start questioning why our country is on the brink of WW3 for a NATION...not a race, not a religion. It is a country, with politicians, and a government that wants to go to war with Iran. Dragging the US into this war would be calling Russia and China's bluff on their support for Iran and the other nations that at conflict now (Syria for example)
Speak out...if you agree, let people know. Don't be dumbed down sheep scared to speak out about Israel and their politics. If a Jewish person get's offended, put them in their place...tell them to apply for citizenship in Israel and go fight that war by themselves if it's that important to them. Stop spending our troops lives, our tax dollars, and stop acting like Israel is the "N" word of politics. Don't be bullied into putting a pacifier in your mouth when it comes to criticizing Israel...if their POLICIES SUCK...SPEAK OUT!
I'll say it loud.. ---- Israel!
Have a nice day!
I totally support Israel and it's right to exist. Not only that, but it's right to defend itself with any means possible to protect and ensure it's survival.
Funny how the first thing the ‘rebels’ did after they killed Gaddafi (with the aid of NATO) was install a central bank in Libya, owned by the Rothschild family. Since when did rebel fighters do central banking? Have I missed something here?
Originally posted by Xtrozero
Oh gee... another I hate Israel thread....
I guess if a group of people are persecuted for a 1000 years they get they own word for hatred against them... It actually means hatred towards all Semitic people but the German's coined it to mean Jew hated.
I really don't see the country of Israel as part of it though and anyone can disagree with Israel as they would any other country, but hatred towards Jews directly no matter what country they are from is considered anti-Semitism. It just a way to say you are predigest towards them just as a person who used the N word in a derogatory way and other offensive labeling towards blacks or whoever based on their race or religion would be considered predigest towards those groups too.
So I'm not sure your point...one is a group of people or persons and the other is a nation.
Originally posted by DerekJR321
If Israel simply has "the right to defend itself". Then let it. On its own. They certainly don't need our money (which Obama just increased by $70 million). They don't need our weapons. They don't need our soldiers and they certainly don't need our support. They should be able to handle themselves. I think if Israel would stop poking the hornets nest and then hiding behind its bodyguard United States, peoples opinion of that so-called Nation would be different.