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Can you help but do evil? I do not see how. Do you?
And if you cannot, why would God punish you?
If all do evil/sin by nature then, the evil/sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not do evil/sin. Can we then help but do evil? I do not see how. Do you?
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by Greatest I am
Can you help but do evil? I do not see how. Do you?
And if you cannot, why would God punish you?
Hello, DL.
Can you define evil for me, in the biblical sense?
Then, can you let me know - according to which standard "God" judges good or evil?
Thanks in advance,
Steve.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Greatest I am
God made a way to be free from the bondage to sin. Being born again by His Holy Spirit.
Originally posted by argentus
reply to post by Greatest I am
If all do evil/sin by nature then, the evil/sin nature is dominant. If not, we would have at least some who would not do evil/sin. Can we then help but do evil? I do not see how. Do you?
I think you are begging the question a tad. I can and do choose to not do evil. It's pretty easy for me, having committed many, many sins in my 55 years and having decided (chosen) to focus on helping people and helping myself.
It's really a question of how we define evil, right? Well, for me, evil is that which is done intentionally to injure others. That's not for me. Is it for you? Only you can say.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Greatest I am
So that's what you're left with? Personal attacks?
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Greatest I am
So that's what you're left with? Personal attacks?
For the super immoral delusional people, yes.
It is tough love for those who will try to profit from murder.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Greatest I am
Are you willing to consider the work of Jesus Christ in another light, is that even possible?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Greatest I am
So that's what you're left with? Personal attacks?
For the super immoral delusional people, yes.
It is tough love for those who will try to profit from murder.
Regards
DL
Who is profiting from murder? And if all you're here to do is level personal attacks that makes you a troll. And this thread nothing more than a bait thread so you can troll.
Originally posted by ahnggk
Evil is ultimately causing plants, animals, nature, and the Earth to suffer.
We are not the only living things on this planet and our 'superior' intellect doesn't give us the right to oppress, displace, etc. other living things for the sake of comfortable living.
Alright, God gave us dominion over plants, animals, etc etc. If we have a dominion, then we are kings and queens in our own right... ...But are we going to be good kings and queens or evil ones? Do you think good/righteous leaders will farm and devour their subjects??
Here's the million dollar question. If evil is our nature, are we to accept our destructive nature and do nothing about it??
We have loads of archeological records that inefficient and potentially destructive species always lead the path to extinction: giant(inefficient) and/or highly aggressive/violent creatures. Notice how modern species are quite cuddly compared to ancient ones that looks like stuff of horror films and nightmares!
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by Greatest I am
That Man that died did so out of love. It was His choice alone. "No greater love than this that a man should die for his friends." It's the system God set up, so that men would glorify His Son and not glory in themselves.
It's simple really. God is not bound by the 4 dimensions we are. He exists outside of time. In order to give men the freedom to choose there is the inverse reality that some of those men would choose to not love Him back. All men are given a choice. We as humans wouldn't want to spend eternity with robots programmed to love us, why would God want anything different?
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Originally posted by Greatest I am
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Greatest I am
Are you willing to consider the work of Jesus Christ in another light, is that even possible?
Does it include embracing immoral human sacrifice or man shedding his responsibilities to some other victim?
Does it involve punishing the innocent while the guilty walk?
If so. No.
I do see archetypal Jesus in another light right now. It is the more intelligent Gnostic Christian view that does not tie him to the genocidal son murderer of the O T.
Regards
DL
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
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Jesus Christ's Superderterministic, Cosmological, Magnum Opus.