Here I was thinking he was going to get charged with jaywalking! Well thanks for clearing this confusing mess up...

Its good to have a thread on the legal angle, and how they are pursuing it.

Thanks for keeping us informed, its not just "another " CO thread, but has some worthy content , and I expect there will be more posts in it dealing with information on the criminal charges, and the legal angle to it all.

Watch for the suspect to be incarcerated for years before the case goes to trial. And when it finally does, the suspect will be practically begging for the right to plead guilty to all charges. 0f course, there is always the very real possibility he will be suicided long before then.

Dear anyone involved in the case, legally or not: We're still waiting for conclusive evidence that links JAMES HOLMES as the shooter. As it stands, these charges are nothing but hearsay and grandeur for the public.

Show me the proof that JAMES HOLMES pulled the trigger, 130+ times.

Originally posted by mattdel
Dear anyone involved in the case, legally or not: We're still waiting for conclusive evidence that links JAMES HOLMES as the shooter. As it stands, these charges are nothing but hearsay and grandeur for the public.

Show me the proof that JAMES HOLMES pulled the trigger, 130+ times.

Prove to me you're a human. Obviously joking, but I'm sure you can see what I'm getting at.

Well, to start with, he admitted it.

They're not required to release any more evidence found in the investigation at this time. But beyond that, I'd imagine they've completed residue tests and fingerprint analysis. The gun trace was already done, too.

At this point, he's cooked. I want to see a fair trial, but I can only see three possible outcomes on this one - life in a mental institution, life in prison without parole, or death penalty. Just comes down to what angles his lawyers are going to take.

Originally posted by mattdel
Dear anyone involved in the case, legally or not: We're still waiting for conclusive evidence that links JAMES HOLMES as the shooter. As it stands, these charges are nothing but hearsay and grandeur for the public.

Show me the proof that JAMES HOLMES pulled the trigger, 130+ times.

Well, I'll assume that it will all come out in the discovery... Are you a believer that there was more than 1 shooter? I wouldnt doubt it... The lone-man gunman theory never sits right with me, it didnt in the Keneddy assassination and it doesnt here... If that many rounds went off, you would think there would be more than 1 shooter, but who knows....

Originally posted by flyswatterWell, to start with, he admitted it.

Link?

The only thing he has allegedly 'admitted' is that his apartment was booby trapped.

Please don't laugh at my ignorance here, but TWO counts of first degree murder per victim? I've never heard of that before. Obviously its probably my lack of knowledge, but that seems almost extreme. I didn't even know they could charge you for killing without remorse.

This is why I love ATS, I learn something new (even if it comes out of terrible events) everyday.

Originally posted by samcrow

Originally posted by flyswatterWell, to start with, he admitted it.

Link?

The only thing he has allegedly 'admitted' is that his apartment was booby trapped.

Must be somewhere out there on the net. Not everything on this planet is a conspiracy, so I dont feel a need to record everything that I watch on TV. But I'm sure that someone was able to get it. It was local news that I was watching, but they were showing something from a larger news corp.

But if your line of thinking leads you to believe he didnt admit anything, its all good. Even without any confession, there will still be plenty of evidence in the end. Let the investigation take its course and we'll see how it goes.

Originally posted by flyswatterMust be somewhere out there on the net. Not everything on this planet is a conspiracy, so I dont feel a need to record everything that I watch on TV. But I'm sure that someone was able to get it. It was local news that I was watching, but they were showing something from a larger news corp.

But if your line of thinking leads you to believe he didnt admit anything, its all good. Even without any confession, there will still be plenty of evidence in the end. Let the investigation take its course and we'll see how it goes.

It's not 'out there on the net.' This has nothing to do with with 'everything on this planet being a conspiracy.'

He didn't confess, which is why his attorneys at today's hearing requested additional time to formulate a plea.

No need to get condescending, There is already plenty of misinformation out there without being fast and loose on the facts here.

Originally posted by flyswatter

Originally posted by samcrow

Originally posted by flyswatterWell, to start with, he admitted it.

Link?

The only thing he has allegedly 'admitted' is that his apartment was booby trapped.

Must be somewhere out there on the net. Not everything on this planet is a conspiracy, so I dont feel a need to record everything that I watch on TV. But I'm sure that someone was able to get it. It was local news that I was watching, but they were showing something from a larger news corp.

But if your line of thinking leads you to believe he didnt admit anything, its all good. Even without any confession, there will still be plenty of evidence in the end. Let the investigation take its course and we'll see how it goes.

FYI- Common etiquette is if you are going to state a 'fact',

Originally posted by flyswatterWell, to start with, he admitted it.

have the common decency and courtesy to back it up with a link... I havent heard anywhere that he 'admitted' to the killings.. If you are going to state a 'fact', you should at least back it up with something to prove you didn't just make it up, just sayin....

Originally posted by samcrow

Originally posted by flyswatterMust be somewhere out there on the net. Not everything on this planet is a conspiracy, so I dont feel a need to record everything that I watch on TV. But I'm sure that someone was able to get it. It was local news that I was watching, but they were showing something from a larger news corp.

But if your line of thinking leads you to believe he didnt admit anything, its all good. Even without any confession, there will still be plenty of evidence in the end. Let the investigation take its course and we'll see how it goes.

It's not 'out there on the net.' This has nothing to do with with 'everything on this planet being a conspiracy.'

He didn't confess, which is why his attorneys at today's hearing requested additional time to formulate a plea.

No need to get condescending, There is already plenty of misinformation out there without being fast and loose on the facts here.

*shrug* Just repeating what I listened to on TV. If they were wrong, they were wrong, which would in turn make me wrong. Thats gonna happen once in a while, I'm not perfect. No sweat off my back.

So with that being questionable, lets just remove it from the equation at this point.

Additional time to formulate a plea though, that can show any number of things, so I think it would be wrong to assume that they need that time to come up with a defense as to his innocence. But regardless of the reason, them requesting additional time is a good thing, as more time will do nothing but help their client. Could be that they want to plead not guilty. Could be that they want time to talk with their client to talk about a plea. Could be that they need more information to help them base an insanity plea on.

I want the guy to rot in prison, but that is an emotional response. Realistic and proper response, he needs to get a fair trial. Less information into the press means less potential information to taint a jury, which means a better chance for him to get a fair trial. Once the trial has started, gloves come off. Let them release everything.

Originally posted by flyswatterAdditional time to formulate a plea though, that can show any number of things, so I think it would be wrong to assume that they need that time to come up with a defense as to his innocence. But regardless of the reason, them requesting additional time is a good thing, as more time will do nothing but help their client. Could be that they want to plead not guilty. Could be that they want time to talk with their client to talk about a plea. Could be that they need more information to help them base an insanity plea on.

Correct, and I should've elaborated on that point a bit more. This is going to be a 'Not Guilty' plea. The question is whether they go the insanity route. I'm going to hazard a guess here right now that this is a straight-up 'Not Guilty' plea.

Also of note: The prosecution is being squirrely about turning over discovery on that notebook. The defense claims it's privileged information and that its leak damages the ability for Holmes to have a fair trial. The prosecution got the motion denied because the defense alleged that the notebook was leaked, which they claim was factually inaccurate. So, we now have this absolutely critical piece of evidence tied up in a procedural argument.