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Originally posted by DJMSN
As stated by an earlier poster there is an illusion of two parties when in reality there is only one...
Originally posted by grey580
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The rich need a tax cut?
WTF are the GOP smoking?
Oh and to fund that tax cut they are going to pay for it by taxing the middle class more?
Senator Orin Hatch and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell proposed raising taxes on working families by $11 billion to make room for tax cuts for the wealthy. The two main increases affect poor and moderate income families by eliminating the child tax credit and Earned Income Credit that combined, affect 22.9 million families in 2013 alone. McConnell has complained for weeks that the wealthiest one-percent are unduly punished, and that 98% of the population has to pick the slack in the Republican version of shared sacrifice. At a time when an overwhelming majority of Americans believe the wealthy should pay higher taxes, Republicans are taking the opposite approach and burdening middle-America to help the 2%.
Again the GOP is showing how out of touch it is with the people of the USA.
Except for the rich of course.
Originally posted by Flatfish
Originally posted by MRuss
The top ten percent of earners in the US pay almost all of the taxes in the US.
The middle class and poor don't pay any taxes.
Originally posted by DJMSN
As stated by an earlier poster there is an illusion of two parties when in reality there is only one....the two sides simply disagree on how they can achieve the end state they so desire.
Democrats believe that if they provide for everyone they can maintain control...and they are correct...if you had to turn to the government for food water and electricity each month eventually everyone would see nothing wrong with having everything provided like health care...entertainment by way of the internet....public transportation sans private cars except for a few elitetist exceptions...and jobs....work here and we will provide everything you need just give us 60 hour5s a week and everything you need will be provided...in esscence control of the populace by providi ng limited health care...limited transportation....limited electricity water and food.
Republicans believe they can maintain control by supporting the illusion that if you follow the dream and work hard....give us 60 hours a week...you will have everything you want. Reality is that working hard gets enough to pay for what you need...food...electricty...healthcare....and a private transportation but you can't afford everything...you must budget for food....use electricity spareingly....healthcare in emergencies....and drive to work and back with no freedom of real travel because you cant afford it.
This is what our politicians have been playing for a long time...all about control and the only argument they have is about how to maintain it...neither side cares a rats behind about you me or our children...only in how best to control the population....either thru a benevolent government that provides all or the illusion that we can have everything if we chase the dream....we are dreaming if we believe either side will ever care enough to really advance our cares and desires so do not get sucked up into the game.
Originally posted by nunyadammm
Originally posted by DJMSN
As stated by an earlier poster there is an illusion of two parties when in reality there is only one...
I am so sick of reading these posts here.
Yes, I could read them before I joined.
None of you make any sense at all. You just say things that the rest of your post history shows even you do not believe. It is always the same. You write about how smart you are to know that it is all an illusion and then you run around the rest of ATS pitching for one side only without realizing what you are doing.
Yes, Virginia there is a difference.
Originally posted by beezzer
Originally posted by grey580
reply to post by beezzer
No clue.
Close the loophole. I'm fine with that.
But to take money away from people who might actually need that. And then give that money to the rich in tax cuts.
The rich don't need tax cuts.
Should of taken that money to enforce laws already on the books.
The rich don't need tax cuts, the middle class don't need tax breaks.
I wish government would stop using taxes as either a carrot or a stick!
A flat tax is a fair tax. No loopholes, no tax breaks, no exemptions, no credit for this, that, the other.
Beezers tax form.
1. How much did you make?
2. Multiply by 15%.
3. Pay that.
HOW FRACKING SIMPLE CAN I MAKE IT?
Originally posted by timetothink
He was trying to fight for the tax cuts for small businesses, but gave in to Reid.....so small businesses will see a tax increase thanks to the Dems. if they take in over $250,000 a year.
Originally posted by White Locust
I prepare taxes for a living. It makes me sick to see people who actually get the earned income credit. Do you all know what this is? Generally speaking, the earned income credit is a refund that poor people get for having kids. They pay in $1,000 in taxes and get a refund of $4,000. Who pays for that? I know I do. It's not fair.
Tax Year 2011 maximum credit:
$5,751 with three or more qualifying children
$5,112 with two qualifying children
$3,094 with one qualifying child
$464 with no qualifying children
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by RealSpoke
The reality of current federal spending of over 2.5 trillion dollars for social programs which supports trickle up poverty.
In over 70 years of social programs people have never been more poor with trillions blown for nothing.
Hasn't work and will never work.
Originally posted by timetothink
reply to post by nunyadammm
That's not what I said at all...don't put words in my mouth....
Man, I hate liars like you.
You want small business owners to pay more taxes and have to fire people in order to satisfy your need for more taxes??? Sick.
Originally posted by nosacrificenofreedom
So your saying that the super rich don't influence the lives of the other 99.9%?
Do you really believe that if we were all as ambitious as say you or someone richer that we all could be as rich as you or the top 0.1%?
Do you really think that we all want something for nothing?
Do you really think that ambition is the only factor in determining our success?
I never wanted to run a business. I never wanted to work on wall street. I was happy with what i was doing until about 2008 when my job was eliminated! When someone thinks they have the world all figured out that's when they need to take a good look around them cause life is all just perception and they are usually wrong about alot of things! I found that out in 2008 when will you learn it?