U.S. may be a Nazi DeJa Vu

It certainly is beginning to appear to me that all the tales of Prescott Bush and the Rothschild's and the NWO and Paperclip are culminating. It certainly seems that we are building an Axis of totalitarianism. It seems we are establishing ourselves to be in position for a power grab of all the known last resources of hydrocarbons. Caspian, Iraq, Venezuela, Nigeria, etc...
Only question, is it National Security, as PNAC would have us believe? Or is it Power Positioning by the elite?

You tell Humble Tut what is!





"Blurring the Lines" is a reference to the distinct roles that are supposed to be carried out by military and civilian institutions in government, and the major theme of the report is that Washington is encouraging Latin American militaries to encroach on what should be the jurisdiction of civilians.

"This is not academic question," said Joy Olson, WOLA's executive director. "It goes to the heart of democracy, particularly for countries where transitions away from brutal military dictatorships are far from complete.

"U.S. military programs are strongly encouraging Latin American militaries to carry out internal roles that civilians can fills, such as crime-fighting, road-building, and protecting the environment."

Thus, in his annual "Posture Statement" in early 2004, Southcom Commander Gen. James Hill, presented a list of emerging threats in Latin America that went far beyond the military's normal purview, identifying "radical populism" and street gangs as major new threats facing the region with the suggestion that the uniformed military -- rather than the police or other civilian-led institutions -- has a role in dealing with them.

"This risks politicizing the armed forces," said Adam Isacson, CIP's program director. "Too often in Latin America, when armies have focused on an internal enemy, the definition of enemies has included political opponents of the regime in power, even those working with the political system."



www.axisoflogic.com...

[edit on 10-10-2004 by tututkamen]

i have heard this afew times, it this is a very interesting subject. Bush does give you the impression he is after a imperialistic empire, which i cannot see happening in this modern age, but it seems he is willing to give it a shot.

babelfish.altavista.com...

The U.S.A. authorized more troops in Colombia
October 10, 2004

The Congress of the United States (the U.S.A..) it approved last
Friday the proposal of the president of that country, George W. Bush,
to duplicate the number of the military in Colombia for the fight
against the narcoterrorism, informed the newspaper the Time yesterday,
of Bogota. The legislative one also extended fitted of the contractors.

The publication indicates that that subject was established in the
final version of the Act of Authorizations for the Department of
Defense of year 2005, a law project was approved in the Camera and the
Senate (both organisms of the Congress), but that was in its stage of
conciliation.

The project �rese�a diario� will be put under voting of Congress in
the heat of (action that is considered protocolic) and soon sent to
Bush so that it sanctions it (approves). With it, the number of the
military of the U.S.A. will happen from 400 to 800 and the one of
contractors will raise 600 of the 400 who before allowed themselves.

According to the Time, the objective of this increase of cash is to
endorse the Patriotic Plan, a military offensive unfolded in the
departments of the south of Colombia to recover territory in being
able of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (the CRAF).

The request was presented/displayed by general James T. Hill, salient
head of the South Commando of the U.S.A. (division of the Pentagon for
Latin America).

"Inicialmente, the increase of the military woke up controversy
between the legislators of the U.S.A., since for many it implied to
become jumbled still more in the Colombian conflict. In fact, the
House of Representatives single was authorized a modest increase of
the 100 military m�s", it reviews the Colombian newspaper. It adds
that Hill insisted on the increase "para to give a grace blow to the
FARC".

According to the text, the North American Congress is very next to
approve the budget for the Foreign Operations, that includes about 680
million dollars that will be reversed in Colombia during fiscal year 2005.

The presence of these new troops of the U.S.A., however, will be
financed directly by bottoms authorized in the budget of Defense, that
handles the Pentagon, concludes the note of the Time.





==============================================================================

www.Eluniverso.com

I can't help but wonder where we are going to get more troops. 1 in 100 of our troops are from unknown origins as it is. Perhaps the U.S. is going mercenary. It is becoming apparent we are expanding miltary interests world wide.
I believe this was the pattern Nazi Germany established prior to the realization that WW 11 was a reality.

TUT

Mod edit: shortened URL with BB code to correct page format

[edit on 12-10-2004 by Spectre]

i was thinking that bush nazis yeah... world war 3 just thinking that they have some connection to start a terroist attack if they need it just to start a fear in the united states just a thought...
- Dark Follower

The agenda of military aggression proposed by PNAC was made very clear.

The underhanded means of achieving that agenda, by trumping up charges against countries unrelated to national security interests and then invading them, with no adequate plan to rebuild and with massive exposure to generations of debt and no care about that, is beyond the dreams of the most profound megalomaniac.

It will happen again and again until the incumbent administration is squashed. I would rather see it squashed from within than from without.

"It won't happen over night, but it will happen" (Rachel Hunter, political affairs commentator and tutor to GWB in world affairs).

2004 U.S. Election, An Illuminati Experiment

By Aaron Labossiere
educate-yourself.org...
October 2, 2004

The 2004 US Presidential Election is one of the most important elections in the history of the world. It is an experiment of the Illuminati that is to determine the willingness of the American people to become the Fourth Reich. I do not live in America myself so I am that much less bombarded with US political propaganda. I live in Canada and have a more-or-less clear view of America from a distance. This is what I see.

and here is the full article

If this is true I�d have to change my view "it doesn�t mather who you vote for" to "it depends on how you want to shape our future." It�s in the hands of Americans in that case I guess.

Maybe if concentration camps started popping up in America ... you could call them Nazi's ... but until then, i dont think it's a suitable title

Well the burning of the twin towers was like the burning of the reichstag in berlin... leading to empowerment laws.

I just want to point to Venezuela who just upped the drilling tax for oil from 1% to 16%... thats got the hawks fuming no doubt

Hey infite what the fck... I hate people who use the word "nazi" in a wrong sentence. Nazi's aint a common name for lamers/polices. It is a frigging political ideology! Bush and America aint even near to the word nazi!

If you use the word "nazi" for a people who love mass-massacres and world domination. You are wrong. Please grow up man.

Heres a little "wake-up" manual:
Police = Not nazi pigs
Strict people = Not Nazis
G.W. Bush = Not a Nazi
America = Has nothing to do with Nazis
Nazi = National Socialism ideology

Thank you

[edit on 10-1-2005 by Amuk]

I dunno, Xa, the last time I was stopped by the trooper, he demanded to see my papers, please.

Originally posted by xapanthe
Hey infite what the fck... I hate people who use the word "nazi" in a wrong sentence. Nazi's aint a common name for lamers/polices. It is a frigging political ideology! Bush and America aint even near to the word nazi!

If you use the word "nazi" for a people who love mass-massacres and world domination. You are wrong. Please grow up man.

Heres a little "wake-up" manual:
Police = Not nazi pigs
Strict people = Not Nazis
G.W. Bush = Not a Nazi
America = Has nothing to do with Nazis
Nazi = National Socialism ideology

Thank you

I know what Nazism is and what it stands for, Secondly, if you learn to read, you will see that tututkamen created the thread about it. Seeings he is on global ignore, my post appears as first. Oh, and where did i mention the word nazi in my post then??

**first post in thread**

postposted on 9-10-2004 at 23:23
It certainly is beginning to appear to me that all the tales of Prescott Bush and the Rothschild's and the NWO and Paperclip are culminating. It certainly seems that we are building an Axis of totalitarianism. It seems we are establishing ourselves to be in position for a power grab of all the known last resources of hydrocarbons. Caspian, Iraq, Venezuela, Nigeria, etc...
Only question, is it National Security, as PNAC would have us believe? Or is it Power Positioning by the elite?

You tell Humble Tut what is!





"Blurring the Lines" is a reference to the distinct roles that are supposed to be carried out by military and civilian institutions in government, and the major theme of the report is that Washington is encouraging Latin American militaries to encroach on what should be the jurisdiction of civilians.

"This is not academic question," said Joy Olson, WOLA's executive director. "It goes to the heart of democracy, particularly for countries where transitions away from brutal military dictatorships are far from complete.

"U.S. military programs are strongly encouraging Latin American militaries to carry out internal roles that civilians can fills, such as crime-fighting, road-building, and protecting the environment."

Thus, in his annual "Posture Statement" in early 2004, Southcom Commander Gen. James Hill, presented a list of emerging threats in Latin America that went far beyond the military's normal purview, identifying "radical populism" and street gangs as major new threats facing the region with the suggestion that the uniformed military -- rather than the police or other civilian-led institutions -- has a role in dealing with them.

"This risks politicizing the armed forces," said Adam Isacson, CIP's program director. "Too often in Latin America, when armies have focused on an internal enemy, the definition of enemies has included political opponents of the regime in power, even those working with the political system."

www.axisoflogic.com...

[edit on 10-10-2004 by tututkamen]

I think the next word you will say to me next is sorry

[edit on 6-1-2005 by infinite]

[edit on 10-1-2005 by Amuk]

in AMERICA, everybody is now VERY patriotic...doesn't matter if you are left or right leaning.. alot stickers and magnets on cars to show support for the troops..( most of these are made overseas..i've only heard of one company in the u.s. that actually prints them....) sort of smacks of 'nazism'

in AMERICA, the police have unpresadented powers to stop, question, and arrest 'citizens'. or to surviel them or to check thier background.....it's all in the 'Name of Saftey and Anti-Terrorism" thank you patriot acts and thier offspring.

in AMERICA, when you apply for a job, apartments, house, loans, cars, cell phones, insurance, your 'credit' standing will be checked and this check will determine how much more you will pay..of course..but..in alot of instances so will your past possible criminal record....

in AMERICA, now politicians tend to be 'lifers'. politicians have legal degrees, politicians are former heads of muti-million (or billion) dollar corporations and keep those connections while in office.....

am i gonning to give examples?? no. if you've been on ATS for more than a week, you probably have a computer full of references.

wheather you agree with me or not...I think the one thing the majority will agree on is....THAT THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG, THERE IS SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE WORLD AND IN AMERICA. we can't seem to put the proverbael finger an the exact reason but, we KNOW SOMETHING IS GOING ON......and it probably doesn't have the 'masses' best interest in mind.

Actually even before the 2000 elections it was clear of the position of Mr. Bush and his closed soon to be part of his administration, into bringing a New Order to the world.

For those that does not remember is a thread in (The Condoleezza Rice Repot: An Insight into Bush Foreign Police Circa 2000 (Birth of the NeoCons)

If any of you have time read it, pretty much it lays out the plans of Mr. Bush administration and the world. So 9/11 was just an excused and a tragic occurrence at the right time, actually the Bush administration was already in the planning for a change in the world and the stance of the US as a nation to make those changes.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

As the saying goes, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

HEil to the Chief, anyone?

Originally posted by infinite
i have heard this afew times, it this is a very interesting subject. Bush does give you the impression he is after a imperialistic empire, which i cannot see happening in this modern age, but it seems he is willing to give it a shot.

Why? Because he went to war with iraq? The US can't possibly hold iraq as an imperial holding. Empires are had for control and profit. Why spend billions to have to defend the oilfields when you can just run the companies that sell the oil? Why expend man power and reveal just how easy it is to kill american soldiers when you can exert politico-military power in other ways? The Iraq War does not fit in with Imperialism. Its more akin to the Revolutionary French Wars.

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countries unrelated to national security interests

Whatever one wants to say about iraq one cannot say that its unrelated o national security. Its a regional power, had stockpiles of chemical weapons, had nuclear ambitions, a proficient military, and is very, very agressive.

corinthas
Well the burning of the twin towers was like the burning of the reichstag in berlin

The Enabling Act and the Patriot Act are not the same, and this all pre-supposes that the government did 911 anways.

Secondly, if you learn to read, you will see that tututkamen created the thread about it

Since he is on universal ignore or some such, its hardly much of an oversight.

clearmind
sort of smacks of 'nazism'

Patriotism is nazism eh?

in AMERICA, the police have unpresadented powers to stop, question, and arrest 'citizens'

Whats so unprecedented about it then?

Originally posted by xapanthe

Heres a little "wake-up" manual:
Police = Not nazi pigs
Strict people = Not Nazis
G.W. Bush = Not a Nazi
America = Has nothing to do with Nazis
Nazi = National Socialism ideology

Thank you

Wasn’t Bushes grandfather supporting the Nazis in WW2 and didn’t they take most of the Nazi scientist and head leaders of the Nazi organization and allot of German immigrants after the war and gave them exile in the US.

Isn’t there a saying that says the fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree.

Police = Racist Nazi PIGS
Strict People = I have no idea what this has to do with the topic.
G.W. Bush = Son and Grandson of a Nazi supporter.
America = Couldnt of been a super power with out Nazis.
Nazi = United States of America(ever since Bush got in power).

[edit on 10-1-2005 by Amuk]

Yall need to tone down the language there are children reading these posts, I have edited three posts and will warn the next one

[edit on 10-1-2005 by Amuk]

Thank you Mod. I was just going to edit my post.
Sorry about that.

Yes people it's the rise of the 4th Reich. remniscient of nazi germany in the late 1930's . remeber Hitler rose fully well to power, during an economic depression of a great magnitude, when the german mark was traded at 1 u.s dollar = 4.5 trillion marks, something along the lines the people were overzealous . and they were fed lies and propganda.. note they said that Pres Bush was the most popular President since Reagan. and what Americans are failing to realize is that they are being taken for a ride. They are too patriotic, and feel that that will never happen here, sentiments like God is an american, and the religious right are being fed lies and halftruths through Tbn, pat robertson and Protestant america propaganda machines CBN and TBN as well as 700 club. Maybe it has to do with the diffrent cultures that exist within america, maybe, the blacks and other coloureds, don't trust the system. and are less fervent than the whites. and when you go against you are label racists. anyway just my 2 cents.

Originally posted by crusader
Yes people it's the rise of the 4th Reich. remniscient of nazi germany in the late 1930's . remeber Hitler rose fully well to power, during an economic depression of a great magnitude, when the german mark was traded at 1 u.s dollar = 4.5 trillion marks, something along the lines the people were overzealous . and they were fed lies and propganda.. note they said that Pres Bush was the most popular President since Reagan. and what Americans are failing to realize is that they are being taken for a ride. They are too patriotic, and feel that that will never happen here, sentiments like God is an american, and the religious right are being fed lies and halftruths through Tbn, pat robertson and Protestant america propaganda machines CBN and TBN as well as 700 club. Maybe it has to do with the diffrent cultures that exist within america, maybe, the blacks and other coloureds, don't trust the system. and are less fervent than the whites. and when you go against you are label racists. anyway just my 2 cents.

You got that right. That's why I don't listen to the likes of Falwell or Roberts and other wolves in sheep's clothing.

That's why reading your Bible is so important. They spew a lot of nonsense and lies.

I was probably the only one in my church who didn't vote for Bush and everyone thought I was a nut. I voted for Peroutka.