Originally posted by Kastogere
I do not know what god is, but I know what he isn't.
Maybe what you really want is for religion to evolve into a more appropriate pardigm. 90% of the world believes in a deity and that will never go
Maybe what needs to happen is to join religion with science officially as it was orginally in the early times before the church. You see...the belief
in god itself lends credence to science as if it didn't science wouldnt exist. At least not in the form we think about it. If some form of religion
didn't come about with early mans desire to answer the question where are we from.....astrology would have not formed as quick as it did.
I mean really...one augments the other in some fashion you cannot just dismiss one because of programmed human behavior that has occured over time due
to societal decree brought on from another mortal being.
Religion like much else on this planet is not now what it was meant to be and is severly broken.
In the end as well with science as religion....you have to have faith that the unseen answers to humanity will eventually be served in simplicity.
Whether science or religion delivers that should make no difference if the answer presents itself.
You are speaking more along the lines of human programming I think rather than the throes and discord that religion is caused. If you really want to
get to the bottom of the idea, you have to get to the root of the problem.
Which in this case would be mankind in general and the dogma he creates to keep people in line.
You my friend, either are from a religious family, attended a religious institution(private school.) Or have built your life with a foundation of
If you are not religious, I apologize for making that assumption, but I will explain why. Religion was a creative, or right brain method for
explaining all that is. How ever the thought that this was/is necessary for science to exist is a very creationist thought process.
I think science, was born as a logical thought to explain the world as it is. Perhaps it became as fruitful as it is because it borrowed ideas from
religion but wanted to explain them other than " god did it." Religion in it's earliest forms wasn't what it is today, and I would have no problem
worshiping the sun, moon, or nature, because in reality nature is responsible for all that is. How ever man, needed to explain why these things were
important to other men, women and children and what easier way to explain the importance and complexity of these things than to personify them. If a
physicist were to sit down with a class full of children to explain the sun and why it's important, the forces that act upon the earth, how it acts,
it would be easier to obtain their attention, and help them retain the information by creating a character. I think much of this is why early religion
has characters representing the sun, moon, rains, ocean and so on. Those who do not understand the science can certainly understand and accept that a
being is the way he is because a being acts the way he is and that's it.
Science provides evidence and answers, and not a whole lot else once we understand it. Same as a man, they are complex but they are the way they are.
Modern man, and man over the ages, lost the understanding of what these characters represent, wrote new stories, translated it, reinterpreted it, and
over time the words lost meaning but the stories exist ever different than when they began. What we interpret as modern religion may have been ancient
science, but it does not resemble it in the slightest today.
In your same thoughts, of the dogmatic control man created. Man created Religion, it's chalked full of rules and control, and what better way to
control the masses with their fears and desires...
Wow, a whole lot of posts here I'm gonna be a busy bee.