Is The Dark Knight Rises Right-Wing Propaganda?

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 11:08 PM
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All of which is to say that Nolan isn’t trying to push a crude, Ayn Rand-esque parable about heroic Gotham capitalists threatened by resentful, parasitic looters. His model, as the movie’s literary references make clear, is “A Tale of Two Cities” rather than “Atlas Shrugged,” which means that he’s trying to simultaneously acknowledge the injustices of the existing regime while suggesting that both the revolutionary and anarchic alternatives would be much, much worse. Across the entire trilogy, what separates Bruce Wayne from his mentors in the League of Shadows isn’t a belief in Gotham’s goodness; it’s a belief that a compromised order can still be worth defending, and that darker things than corruption and inequality will follow from putting that order to the torch. This is a conservative message, but not a triumphalist, chest-thumping, rah-rah-capitalism one: It reflects a “quiet toryism” (to borrow from John Podhoretz’s review) rather than a noisy Americanism, and it owes much more to Edmund Burke than to Sean Hannity.





What sayeth you all? Do you think its right wing propaganda? Or is it just people reading to much into it and using it for an agenda? IE....a rorschach's inkblot? how does this fit into the current political climate being had in light of the recent Dark Knight Rising Aurora Shooting? just thought i would share this thought/article with you all, perhaps some of you here may be interested whether u agree or not. i posted it because ive seen other propaganda slants on this film but not this one/angle. not sure whats going on. just kind of find the banter amusing/entertainment.


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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Oh boy, why can't people just let a movie be a movie for entertainment without making crap up?



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by krossfyter
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All of which is to say that Nolan isn’t trying to push a crude, Ayn Rand-esque parable about heroic Gotham capitalists threatened by resentful, parasitic looters. His model, as the movie’s literary references make clear, is “A Tale of Two Cities” rather than “Atlas Shrugged,” which means that he’s trying to simultaneously acknowledge the injustices of the existing regime while suggesting that both the revolutionary and anarchic alternatives would be much, much worse. Across the entire trilogy, what separates Bruce Wayne from his mentors in the League of Shadows isn’t a belief in Gotham’s goodness; it’s a belief that a compromised order can still be worth defending, and that darker things than corruption and inequality will follow from putting that order to the torch. This is a conservative message, but not a triumphalist, chest-thumping, rah-rah-capitalism one: It reflects a “quiet toryism” (to borrow from John Podhoretz’s review) rather than a noisy Americanism, and it owes much more to Edmund Burke than to Sean Hannity.





What sayeth you all? Do you think its right wing propaganda? Or is it just people reading to much into it and using it for an agenda? IE....a rorschach's inkblots? just thought i would share this thought/article with you all, perhaps you all here may be interested.


mods please close if a thread is on this subject.

edit on 29-7-2012 by krossfyter because: (no reason given)
edit on 29-7-2012 by krossfyter because: (no reason given)


Hahaha...

So... first it was:

'The new batman is liberal propaganda..' and people jumped on the Bain/Romney connection.

....

Oh hey! I found the article... thank you firefox lol.

www.eonline.com...
Batbrained? Debunking Dark Knight Rises Bane-Bain Conspiracy Theory




"I assure you there is absolutely no connection between Bane, the Batman villain, and Bain Capital," he says. "Chuck Dixon, who created Bane, is one of the most prominent conservatives in comics, so I doubt he'd created this thinly veiled antagonist to draw attention to Mitt Romney—20 years ago!"

Indeed, Dixon created Bane back in 1993, and the comic-book writer openly proclaims that his politics are hardly liberal.

"Graham and I are both staunch conservatives, so from our angle there is no liberal agenda," Dixon told syndicated radio program Schnitt Show, name-checking Graham Nolan, the artist who cocreated Bane with him.

Dixon also went on to shoot down theories that Bane is being used as a political mouthpiece in Dark Knight Rises, telling ComicBook.com, "The idea that there's some kind of liberal agenda behind the use of Bane in the new movie is silly," adding that he and his cohort are "as far from left-wing mouthpieces as you are likely to find in comics.


and...




"I do think there is political commentary in Christopher Nolan's movies, particularly in The Dark Knight," says ComicsAlliance.com's Chris Sims, who jokingly admits to being a self-described Batmanologist. "And there's a lot of political commentary in Batman as a whole—he's a profoundly rich man who essentially pits himself against criminals."


Answer... probably...



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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The movie does 2 things,besides ruin a decent story arc...

1. Pure authoritarian propaganda. Sure, Bane's methods were less than reputable, but the reliance on law enforcement to take military-style action is conditioning.

2. The movie insists that no one individual is worthy of praise or adulation. All heroes are fallible and replaceable.

Right wing? Sort of. Left wing? Sort of. Bad movie? Oh hell yeah!



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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I don't think it's a right vs left(conservative vs liberal) issue at all.
It's a pro-elite/TPTB movie.
It manipulates the viewer into thinking that the elite aren't really bad people, and that the masses would be lost without them. It supports TPTB's order. It cuts across party boundaries. Hate to break it to you, but being pro-"business". No matter how much propaganda Fox News throws out there, Liberals are also pro-"business."



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 11:28 PM
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very interesting insights everyone. this seems like a rorschach ink blot more and more.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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Originally posted by krossfyter
very interesting insights everyone. this seems like a rorschach ink blot more and more.


Don't you start referencing my favorite movie of all time!


If you haven't... you should see Alex Jones go off about that movie!!! omg it's hilarious "Illuminati, Illuminati!!!".

Ahh.... Epic!



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 01:52 AM
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Originally posted by FractalChaos13242017

Originally posted by krossfyter
very interesting insights everyone. this seems like a rorschach ink blot more and more.


Don't you start referencing my favorite movie of all time!


If you haven't... you should see Alex Jones go off about that movie!!! omg it's hilarious "Illuminati, Illuminati!!!".

Ahh.... Epic!




haha goes way back before the watchmen! good flick. so ive heard.
can never get around to paying attention to the story/content. im so awstruck by the visuals.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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you nailed the motivation on the head but i doubt it was anything more than a political statement, this system sucks but it could be waaaaay worse. why not try to help it become better rather than burn it down? that's the message i got, from ALL the movies.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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I haven't seen it, won't see it until/unless I get bored once it hits cable, so I can't say for sure. That said, if it is, its just one counterpoint to the massive flood of liberal propoganda that Hollywood craps out constantly anymore. Did I mention I rarely watch movies these days?



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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Almost nothing comes out of Hollywood without an agenda. And it's usually left wing. It would be hard to say without seeing the film though. Otherwise it's just someone else's take on it.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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i guess they have the radio waves and tv waves right wing and the hollywood waves left wing.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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Right Wing Subliminal Messages Hidden in Batman Lyrics



Listen carefully to the lyrics and it's painfully obvious that "Nazi Right Wing Political Propaganda" is embedded in this Seemingly Harmless batman Theme Song.



edit on 30-7-2012 by Pedro4077 because: Sarcasm - Not to be taken Seriously.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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sweet! reminds me of MKULTRA, sirhan sirhan, sifl and oli and Jim Jones.
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posted on Nov, 30 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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Im surprised this thread never took off. "The Dark Knight" is easily recognizable as right-wing. It contains conservative elements, libertarian elements, anti-socialist and anti-communist paranoia and a few fascistic undertones. Their idea of "pure evil" is when "everbody owns everything" (pure communism) a point made several times in the movie. The villain keeps using the words "the oppressed" when referring to felons and looters and "the oppressor" when referring to rich people, corporations and wall-street folks. This is precisely how the far-right views the left. And just like in communist dictatorships, the first thing he does is kill the rich and powerful.

So yes, the Dark Knight is right-wing-propaganda. Hollywood churns out a lot of left-wing-propaganda, but this particular movie is certainly not among those. Right-wing and left-wing movies always have pretty predictable themes and cliches.
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