If You're Poor, You Didn't Get There On Your Own. Government Helped You Get There..., page 1


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Topic started on 29-7-2012 @ 08:10 PM by The Old American
What I believe Obama meant to say:

"There are a lot of poor, downtrodden Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been on welfare, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so dumb. There are a lot of dumb people out there. It must be because I worked much less than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of lazy people out there.

If you were on welfare, somebody along the line helped you get there, and stay there. There was a government program somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this atrocious American system that we have that allowed you to stay poor. Somebody gave you food stamps and extended your stay in welfare. If you're on welfare, you didn't do that on your own. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we are poor, we stay poor because of our kollectivist "everyone is a victim" mentality. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody kept their own wages. That would be a hard way to keep you under our jackboots."

This is the reality of being poor in America. You are kept poor. You are kept enslaved. You are not encouraged to get off of welfare and make a life for yourself. You are a victim and must keep sucking on the teat of Mother Government.

And if you are successful, it is your responsibility to help keep the poor there. After all, it was your fault they were poor in the first in the place. You had some, they had none, therefore you were wrong. And keeping them poor gives the rich something good to spend their dirty money on. Because America can't thrive without victims.

Keeping the poor that way gives the guilty something to do. Something to make themselves Feel Better. And that's all we need, right? To Feel Better. "I helped someone today to feel good about being poor."

/TOA


reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 08:15 PM by pisssss
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If that is a silly and emotionally angry post I don't know what is...

In conservative America, feeding people makes them hungry, I have heard it all before,
you guys expect the worst from people.



reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 08:16 PM by Wrabbit2000
Originally posted by pisssss
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post by The Old American


If that is a silly and emotionally angry post I don't know what is...

In conservative America, feeding people makes them hungry, I have heard it all before,
you guys expect the worst from people.


Hoping for the best and expecting the worst means we're rarely disappointed. At least I rarely am.

Great thread Op! I love the way that reads now. Looks a whole more accurate than the version I heard BO give.


reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 08:27 PM by CallYourBluff
Depends on what you consider poor. Skip to 44:20...
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reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 08:30 PM by The Old American
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America spends hundreds of billions of dollars a year keeping people on welfare. That's not propaganda, that's disgusting.

And I'm not a conservative.

/TOA


reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 08:36 PM by wwiilliiaamm
trickle down economics:
A little while back the heritage foundation published a report which stated in the 1980's 85% of americans paid taxes. Now we are down to about 50%.

www.heritage.org...

Conservatives tell us this is beacuse people are lazy.
I would say our middle class is gone. The tax breaks that started during the Reagan Administration and since have not trickled down.

The rich are richer and the poor... well the poor are being blamed for the economic mess.


reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 08:42 PM by pisssss
Originally posted by The Old American
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post by pisssss



America spends hundreds of billions of dollars a year keeping people on welfare. That's not propaganda, that's disgusting.

And I'm not a conservative.

/TOA


Oh I see, and I guess feeding people is detrimental to those people because it makes them
dependent on food.

I am glad you are an OLD American -


reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 08:53 PM by FractalChaos13242017
I've always been kinda 'poor'... and I don't see what all the hubbub is about. Never once did it cross my mind that receiving some form of 'welfare' was ever appropriate. It's pretty sad when people hop on the 'welfare' train... because the next stop is a long time after their departure from responsibility. Granted, there are always circumstances that arise, but cmon!

I know a guy who claimed bankruptcy 4 years ago, due to his own actions... owns 3 houses, rents 2 of them out, owns the largest house in his neighbor hood, has a nice swimming pool, hot tub, pool table... ultimate bachelor pad... and this a-hole is on food stamps? Not to mention, the 4 other people living in his current residence are on food stamps! Every single last one of them could be working, but no... They can get the government to pay for their food, give them cash even, lower their electricity bills, lower internet bills.... and all sorts of other craziness. So basically, there are 5 people... sitting around, nerd herding the internet, eating non stop all day and contributing absolutely nothing to society.



They chose this, we made it possible... time for change!

I demand! lol.... Mandatory drug tests by every single individual who uses welfare!!!

Even if all drugs were legal, still... this vice keeps people poor, and even with government money... they remain poor! I'm getting soooo sick of paying for other peoples addictions with taxes.

I'm addicted to cigarettes, at $5 a day, x 30, that's $150 a month... lets say I make $300 a week at some crap job... 1200 a month... left after taxes... 800(if lucky)... then pay rent at $500 a month for a crap room, another 200 a month in random utilities and phone... omg I'm left with only $100!!!! But I smoke $150 a month on them!!!

How will I ever afford to live?!?! Foodstamps!! and Money from the government!!

Or... quit smoking, and find different means that are in accordance with my wage?!!?
Ahh... prosperity hidden in the shadows...

What I'm getting at... is, Who wants to buy me a pack of cigarettes?

Nobody!
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