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Woman burnt alive in front of daughters

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Yeah your comment is ignorant. What you are talking about happened during war. War is hell. Now Muslims burning their women for whatever idiotic complaint they have deemed a punishable offense is completely different. Apparently you don't get it. Please just go away.




posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by TheIrishJihad
reply to post by RizeorDie
 


Yeah your comment is ignorant. What you are talking about happened during war. War is hell. Now Muslims burning their women for whatever idiotic complaint they have deemed a punishable offense is completely different. Apparently you don't get it. Please just go away.


Stop crying to me,

Did you even read the story or are you blinded by your own ignorance and hate

this has nothing to do with Islam or religion, regardless what faith they belong to and i Can assure you now, they are not muslim, claims are they are hindu but even then it doesnt mean that hindus are bad people

I dont care how much 'hell' war brings, if you wage it, you are responsible, IF YOU SUPPORT IT, you are RESPONSIBLE, stop trying to justify oppression and killing for groups you support!

USA has been supporting wars for years which caused millions to die

go back to sleep.. better yet, go and learn to read you nincompoop...



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Pure religious belief wouldn't cause me personally to do something like this, absolutely not. But wars fought over it throughout history unfortunately gut that argument until the intestines are sprawling on the floor. Much much worse has been done in the name of religion- time and time again.


Done in the name of religion is saying it just right. They aren't fooling anyone, and as it happens I just created a thread on this topic if you'd care to take a look. If not, that's fine too. Do we even practice religion?
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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by nunyadammm
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
 


Mexicans drug runners burn rivals to death in the middle of the street.
Christians burn witches to death in Africa in front of adoring crowds.
Where is the OP going that is not "off?"
edit on 29-7-2012 by nunyadammm because: (no reason given)

The person I was replying to, used this opportunity to bring war and politics into a story I didn't see any hint of it for. I was refering to that, in being off as much as anything. I agree with the OP. It was the suggestion and context of a reply.


If you have links or pics that are suitable for this environment...just stories would do..on Christians in Africa burning anyone where their being Christian is even a factor, I'd love to see those.

I'm actually serious, not just being sarcastic. I have dozens of really horrendous and sickening mutilations and related atrocities committed against Christians in Africa. (When a cross larger than they are...is now a physical part of what used to be them?..it's not hard to determine who and what, in one example). Having material on the counter side is always something I appreciate for honest balance.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
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So it wasn't a true scottsman then?


No indeed, not a true scotsman.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by jiggerj

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Great. So it's safe to say that their religious beliefs had absolutely NOTHING to do with this, and it's just a random, unassociated killing. There was no religious empowerment whatsoever, happens all the time in India, no big deal.

Yippee! Let's burn these kid's Mom at the stake today! That sounds like FUN! *Evil grin*

Right. Ok, I feel better now. Uh huh.

Got it? If not, get lost.


I feel for ya, TA, but come on, let's face it, would ANY religious belief cause you to do such a thing to another human being? If god himself came down and told me to burn my wife (or anyone) I'd tell him to go to hell. This was an evil human performing a human atrocity. No religion required.


Why do people keep saying these things are the act of an evil human (or whatever) trying to make out like it isn't so much more.
There is a big difference between some crack head in the US burning their kid with a cigy, and getting your mother & sister together to help you with a barbyQ.
Things like this are either cultural or religious, saying they are individual acts just belittles the situation.
At least the neighbours came to her aid, they must be from a moderate area otherwise they would have known better, or they didn't realise what happened.

Sick of Muslims/Christians/other bastards trying to justify the actions of their brothers with carp like oh their are guys that abuse their wives in the west as well didn't you know.
Sure I know, just like I know the whole street doesn't come out to support them when it happens. See the difference.
If the people in that area really don't approve of such actions these people wouldn't be hard to find.



posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by RizeorDie
*sigh*

go do something about it instead of crying, maybe you should blow yourself inside a muslim mosque, or better yet why dont you go to those who burnt this women in the heart of their motherland and burn a quran to protest, maybe they will listen to you...

because talking about it here aint gonna change a thing! get it! got it!


I like the idea, but what kind if crazy contortionist would you have to be to blow yourself? They would probably frown on that in a mosque though.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 12:20 AM
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its not the religion ... its the culture there in india - sons are preferred over daughters .. many girls in india get sold into prostitution ... they also the past several years have been abort female fetuses in order to try and get sons rather than daughters ...



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 12:46 AM
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It is a horrible story, of course. BUT, this is just a terrible case of domestic abuse.Period.
Just like it happens everywhere around the world, everyday !


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posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 03:18 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
If you have links or pics that are suitable for this environment...just stories would do..on Christians in Africa burning anyone where their being Christian is even a factor, I'd love to see those.


Entire threads about it right here on ATS.
Witch burning in Africa
You did not think I was making it up did you?
You singled that one out oddly.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by nunyadammm

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
If you have links or pics that are suitable for this environment...just stories would do..on Christians in Africa burning anyone where their being Christian is even a factor, I'd love to see those.


Entire threads about it right here on ATS.
Witch burning in Africa
You did not think I was making it up did you?
You singled that one out oddly.


So, are you implying she was a witch? That changes everything. I upset my girlfriend at Christmas dinner last year by calling her mother a witch. To be fair I don't really think she's a witch, but when someone asks you, "Why did you set my mother on fire?" you just have to think on your feet.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 06:38 AM
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The ironic thing is that it is the mans sperm that decides the sex of the child. So not only is this religious ignorance it is biological ignorance.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 07:40 AM
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While i do enjoy violence on a large scale, namely for those that desperatly deserve such.

I do believe that such senseless killing are wrong and should be dealt with harshly.

There is no need to kill the innocent for such petty reasons. The action on the husband need come back 10 fold. Why can't there be true justice in this world? If there were, I wouldn't have a need for violence. Nor would I be so angry at humanity as a whole.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
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That's even worse than Henry the 8th.

It's the father's sperm that determines the sex of the baby ... not the mother's egg.



Yep. Should someone tell him its his slow sperm making ONLY girls??? Nahhhh



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by KaiserSoze
So, are you implying she was a witch?


A large number of people is rarely referred to as "she."
So now that you obviously did not even click on the link....


YAWN.


That changes everything. I upset my girlfriend at Christmas dinner last year by calling her mother a witch. To be fair I don't really think she's a witch, but when someone asks you, "Why did you set my mother on fire?" you just have to think on your feet.


Your response might have been funny if the "she" you were referring to could not be found in a clip of a large ditch full of people being burned alive because the Christians declared them witches.
Watch the videos and yuk it up.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

The person I was replying to, used this opportunity to bring war and politics into a story I didn't see any hint of it for. I was refering to that, in being off as much as anything. I agree with the OP. It was the suggestion and context of a reply.



Ok. What does that change?

I'm actually serious, not just being sarcastic. I have dozens of really horrendous and sickening mutilations and related atrocities committed against Christians in Africa. (When a cross larger than they are...is now a physical part of what used to be them?..it's not hard to determine who and what, in one example). Having material on the counter side is always something I appreciate for honest balance.


I really have no clue what you are talking about here.
Sorry.



posted on Jul, 30 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by nunyadammm

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

The person I was replying to, used this opportunity to bring war and politics into a story I didn't see any hint of it for. I was refering to that, in being off as much as anything. I agree with the OP. It was the suggestion and context of a reply.



Ok. What does that change?

I'm actually serious, not just being sarcastic. I have dozens of really horrendous and sickening mutilations and related atrocities committed against Christians in Africa. (When a cross larger than they are...is now a physical part of what used to be them?..it's not hard to determine who and what, in one example). Having material on the counter side is always something I appreciate for honest balance.


I really have no clue what you are talking about here.
Sorry.


I'm not sure what wasn't clear, but if you happen to get back here. I can simplify that greatly by simply saying this.

You claimed "Christians burn witches to death in Africa in front of adoring crowds." I was asking nicely and with some subtly. However, I'll just be blunt. I don't believe that statement. Simple as that. You made it, so rather than say more about the motives for saying it, I'm asking for pics or proof of any form.

The rest was noting I HAVE proof and lots of it, for how Christians have been the VICTIMS of atrocities in Africa as a direct result of their Christian Faith. I do NOT have a single thing like you claim. So... as they say.. Pics or it didn't happen because you made the claim. I didn't.



posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 01:06 AM
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WHOA

SINCE WHEN DOES A WOMAN HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE SEX OF A CHILD???

Are these people not educated on which adult sex has the equipment to decide the sex of the child???

IT'S THE MALES WHO'S SPERM DECIDE.

NUTCASES!!!!!!!



On a side note I can't seem to produce girls. 4 boys....and counting.
Suck it Extremist religious freaks!!!!!!
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posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 01:14 AM
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This is a problem with religion - it lets it seem okay to kill sometimes - but what can anyone do.. It can't be changed, as savage as it might be/seem.. Setting people on fire should be crossing a line, though.. If you're going to kill someone make it quick so it's not painful, you know? I don't even use fowl language, so obviously I'm against killing anyone/thing, but fire is a bit much..



posted on Jul, 31 2012 @ 02:33 AM
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Originally posted by Wrabbit2000

I'm not sure what wasn't clear, but if you happen to get back here. I can simplify that greatly by simply saying this.


The vast majority of what you wrote and now I get even less of it because of this...


You claimed "Christians burn witches to death in Africa in front of adoring crowds." I was asking nicely and with some subtly. However, I'll just be blunt. I don't believe that statement. Simple as that. You made it, so rather than say more about the motives for saying it, I'm asking for pics or proof of any form.


I got that part and I supplied exactly what you asked for. Apparently your form of arguing is in the form of ignoring evidence and demanding it a second time?

I can post the link again if it is too hard for you to follow along. Let me know.


The rest was noting I HAVE proof and lots of it, for how Christians have been the VICTIMS of atrocities in Africa as a direct result of their Christian Faith. I do NOT have a single thing like you claim. So... as they say.. Pics or it didn't happen because you made the claim. I didn't.


I posted my links. Yours...well I am not so sure where yours are or what your point is. I never denied Christians can be victims too. You are having that argument all by yourself.

Your next post will make a ton more sense if you go back and read my posts, understand what I was actually saying, and respond to it.
Cry about Christians being hurt in Africa all day long. I am not telling you that you cannot or should not.




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