Originally posted by SpearMint

Originally posted by ModerateMartian

Originally posted by The X

Actually the barge inn in pewsey is the best known haunt of crop circle investigators, long long before any fakers appeared on the scene...

Until such time as crop circles have been proved to have been made by anything other than humans I will stick with the obvious explanation. Basically speaking, prove it or you have nothing, nothing at all.

I feel the same way, but decoding messages is still fun.

harharhar, so all you will accept as evidence is someone catching balls of light making one?...oh yeah already happened.
(the camera footage was blamed as being the production of an 18year old film student as a prank, in truth it was a 44 year old housewife who filmed it happening)

Or, having the government mention it in the house of commons as a phenomena in need of research grants and scientists?, oh yeah, already happened. (5 Times)

or, having glyphs appear well beyond the artistry capabilities of the hoaxers at the time?, oh yeah already happened.

or, Having someone catch a massive flash on camera to find a field with a massive glyph in it, and also no signs of fakery on the other cameras watching the field in infra red seeing no one there?, or coming and going., oh yeah, already happened.

So, what you are basically saying is, until a "Respectable" agency, comes forward and says "It's a real phenomena" you won't even consider it as happening?.
What will you believe then?, the government making a statement?. they have, they say it is not happening.
(it is), why don't you pay a visit to the barge inn, you would be made to feel very welcome, also, why don't you go spend a night out, its absolutely great on a warm summers night, it would be something to remember, the english countryside and the wheat fields are incredibly soothing at night.
Also incredibly quiet, you can hear people walking through the crop from a long way away on a still and silent night.

Well i suggest you get out of your comfort zone and spend some time in the fields, at least that way you could have verification from the most trustworthy perspective there is.
I have spent YEARS looking into this, and an awful lot of time in the circles and in the fields at night, yes i have seen hoaxers, but i have also seen crop circles appear with no human help.
To base your assumptions on humans doing it, and not leaving your opinion open because you don't actually know, says an awful lot.

As for having nothing at all. would five years research and presence in the fields account as being nothing?, I wouldn't go so far as to say i know enough about you to say you have nothing upon which to base your own assumptions, but i very much doubt you have spent a single night out researching the phenomena.

ATS is becoming a cesspit for detractors and people who seem to revel in their own ignorance, ATS is about keeping an open mind, DENY IGNORANCE, Not ACCEPT IGNORANCE, Why deny something when you don't have a clue what the truth is.
And i am still out on the causes of the crop circles, i know not all of them are real, not all are faked, that answer is somewhere in the middle, whether it is aliens, or somekind of geometric-geomagnetic freakery of nature i don't know.
But i wont say it is not happening.
I am sure there have been people who have had some breathtaking experiences, and, they will never share them, too many people are always willing to think that because it is something "Out of the ordinary" then derp derp "It didn't happen" derp, "You must be a liar or a loon".
Never thinking for a moment, that those people, unlike themselves, that make themselves available to the experience, tend to have them.
The world would be a better place without so much septic cynicism.


(Im sorry for posting on your quote but i was to miffed to go hunting for it).

The diagram does match, trying to think what it could be or mean. But if you photoshop of the diagram over the image and rotate it does match up. But knowing which way is top bottom etc is impossible

I've cropped and resized the original, and rotated the diagram so that they match:



First thought was "this looks like Tetris", and second thought was "looks like a crossword"

Will be working on my own overlapping the diagram, rotating it and such (now that we know it is accurate)

If I see something worth mentioning, I'll post it as soon as possible.

Originally posted by Monicle
Wouldn't it be equally or more important to first ascertain if the circle is man-made or not?

As opposed to who? I think they are all man made. No evidence to suggest otherwise.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr

Originally posted by Monicle
Wouldn't it be equally or more important to first ascertain if the circle is man-made or not?

As opposed to who? I think they are all man made. No evidence to suggest otherwise.

Your opinion isn't of value here.

Let's start from the data we got.

It is a grid of 12x12 blocks, it is inside circle.

Question no.1: Why circle shape? Why not square?

Obviously it is not binary code, more likely a charade...