Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by marg6043

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I don't know why it is happening. But if that lady would have had a way to contact me, I would have started driving that way with my guns.

I hold my children as the most sacred thing in the world. I would kill for mine, and I would kill for yours, too.

Originally posted by snarky412
reply to post by martianmallow

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Me personally, I am so sick and tired of hearing doctors prescribing medicine to young kids. What ever happened to trying to treat a problem on it's own, with out medicine? This wasn't always like this, there used to be doctors who actually took the time to diagnose & treat properly with out the use of meds.

Anyway, she went to see this specialist. So, this oak-paneled room, and she was there with her mother, and she was led and sat on this chair at the end, and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes while this man talked to her mother about all the problems Gillian was having at school. And at the end of it -- because she was disturbing people; her homework was always late; and so on, little kid of eight -- in the end, the doctor went and sat next to Gillian and said, "Gillian, I've listened to all these things that your mother's told me, and I need to speak to her privately." He said, "Wait here. We'll be back; we won't be very long," and they went and left her. But as they went out the room, he turned on the radio that was sitting on his desk. And when they got out the room, he said to her mother, "Just stand and watch her." And the minute they left the room, she said, she was on her feet, moving to the music. And they watched for a few minutes and he turned to her mother and said, "Mrs. Lynne, Gillian isn't sick; she's a dancer. Take her to a dance school."

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by marg6043

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I don't know why it is happening. But if that lady would have had a way to contact me, I would have started driving that way with my guns.

I hold my children as the most sacred thing in the world. I would kill for mine, and I would kill for yours, too.

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by WorkingClassMan

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What is the standard police response when a child is being removed from a home, and an adult then baricades themself inside the house with said child? (I'm assumeing their is a standard)

Here is the standard, beginning with Article I, Section 1 of the Michigan State Constitution

§ 1 Political power.

Sec. 1. All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for their equal benefit, security and protection.

Article I, Section 17:

§ 17 Self-incrimination; due process of law; fair treatment at investigations.

Sec. 17. No person shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law. The right of all individuals, firms, corporations and voluntary associations to fair and just treatment in the course of legislative and executive investigations and hearings shall not be infringed.

Most importantly, Article I, Section 23:

§ 23 Enumeration of rights not to deny others.

Sec. 23. The enumeration in this constitution of certain rights shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The governments in Michigan were way out of control before SWAT showed up, and I might add that SWAT personnel are trained to kill. Trained to shoot and kill. Shoot and kill.

Legal experts: 'Rubber-stamping' child removal orders illegal; Wayne County practice must stop

(WXYZ) - When the judge dismissed the criminal charges against Maryanne Godboldo – he called the child removal order that sparked the case unconstitutional. As the Action News Investigators first showed you – the order to remove Godboldo’s child from her home was never actually reviewed by a judge.

This process is called rubber-stamping – where probation officers - NOT judges -- are literally stamping a judge’s signature onto the orders used to take children away from their parents. That means in Wayne County -- a judge is not looking at the evidence in a case before a child is removed – and court experts say that’s illegal – and it has got to stop.

Would you call "rubber stamping" due process of law, or would you call that standard operating procedure for Constitutionally restrained governments?

Pick up that gauntlet and do some homework. Ignorantia juris non excusat!