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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 04:50 AM by Kantzveldt
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You argue from the perspective of pre-concieved socio-political conditioning, which neccesitates the avoidance and attempted dismissal of awkward facts and science, employing crass and obselete terminology such as 'junk DNA'.


Nowhere is it suggested in the article that the likes of the pygmies interbred with Neanderthal, which is a known species, whereas the article posits an unknown, these differences need to be understood, and your presumed role of righteous accuser and judge against those who wish to consider such differences challenged.



reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 05:24 AM by AussieAmandaC
Originally posted by swan001
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post by Kantzveldt



Damn, why do they always think its all about sex? Reminds me of some freaking mason lodges. What's wrong with the engineering theory? Maybe that's the proof that mankind's DNA has been tempered with. Two different species cannot successfully breed. Look at the mule: cross donkey, cross horse. They are totally sterile.
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Absolutely nothing wrong with that theory but,
...I just want to point out that they thought it was impossible for sharks to co-mate too, but here a tiger and a white tip have done just that.
Must have been love at first sight then....?!

clearly this big arse beautiful rock has many more secrets to find


reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 08:03 AM by swan001
reply to post by AussieAmandaC



Yeah, but what about the baby? this thing was sterile, right? Sterility means end of the bloodline.

BTW the story is just cute... a star for you.
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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 08:46 AM by john_bmth
Originally posted by jd0Fengland
Originally posted by LifeInDeath
Originally posted by jd0Fengland
could this be the missing link?, or aliens? either way i look forward to watching about it on ancient aliens they are guaranteed to cover this soon lol

There is no such thing as "the missing link." The concept of a missing link is probably over a century old, and is no longer considered a valid idea in biology. Species change gradually over time, so what you will find are a great many "links" between them in the fossil record and, if we could get it, in the genetic record too. In between those "links" would have been even closer connections, too, then you find closer and closer relatives until the point you have a continuous gradation from one species to the next. We have just this sort of thing in the fossil record, with the occasional gap. The truth is, bones don't usually fossilize, they will break down in most cases, which is what makes it so hard to find them. Fossils or preserved bones only happen in very specific circumstances, accidents really, so it's unlikely we'll see every single little, tiny gap in the fossil record filled. But the preponderance of evidence of what we have so far shows this gradation between species quite well as it is.

well if we evolved from the monkey and there still around why aint the other animals inbetween us and a monkey its too grater leap from us to the monkey, unless its the sasquatch

Well if modern Americans descended from Europeans and they're still around why ain't there other nations in between us and Europeans, it's too great a leap from us to Europeans.

Sounds silly? Yup. Also, we DID NOT evolve from monkeys, we share a common ancestor so your grammatically and logically bankrupt argument isn't even applicable.


reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 01:33 PM by HappyBunny
Originally posted by Kantzveldt
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post by swan001




It's a possibility, the regional variations that are being discovered regarding differant human racial groups are also making the suggestion that we are a singular species more tenuous.



We Are One.

Species, that is. That's just my gut feeling. We're different regional variants of the same species.
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reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 01:45 PM by Daughter2
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Adept333 - nope that's not really what I wanted to know. Project much?

I asked about brain development because there was a change that's not easily explained by mutations.

sfari.org... ment

www.guardian.co.uk...


reply posted on 1-8-2012 @ 10:24 AM by LifeInDeath
Originally posted by jd0Fengland
well if we evolved from the monkey and there still around why aint the other animals inbetween us and a monkey its too grater leap from us to the monkey, unless its the sasquatch

Humans and monkeys evolved from a common ancestor believed to have existed somewhere between 25 and 30 million years ago. The two lines diverged, some became the monkeys we see all around the world today, some became apes and eventually humans (whom most biologists today classify as a species of ape). The ancestor we all come from was probably very monkey-like, and if it was still around today might even be classified as a type of monkey. But that species is long-gone. It's ancestors live today in many forms, adapted to many different types of environments and environmental niches.

99.9% of all species that ever existed on the Earth have died out. Those that do not die, evolve into new forms to take better advantage of the environment they are living in. This is how evolution works. Some monkeys survived into the present day because they were better adapted to survival than others. The same goes for apes, including all of our ancestors. It's quite likely that in many cases the reason many of these other pre-human apes died out is because their own descendants, or other hominid variants came into their areas and out-competed them. Those few Neanderthals who did not interbreed with humans in Europe and Asia were probably out-competed for food and land by the generally better adapted modern humans who were living in the same areas. Also, Neanderthals were particularly well adapted to survive during the last Ice Age and once that ended, their physical advantages for that environment probably became a hindrance in the warmer age that came next, the age we are still in.
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reply posted on 5-4-2013 @ 08:17 PM by Ansar
reply to post by Kantzveldt


Not my cup of tea (or better coffee - for me anyway).
But you also didn't get very much involved.

A
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