Horror Hospital: Shocking Photos And Testimony From The Dawood Military Hospital Scandal, page 4


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reply posted on 29-7-2012 @ 09:12 PM by bigfatfurrytexan
reply to post by zeeon



My damnation of "the military" is of the apparatus and the demons that wield its power.

Like I said....the military is made up of mostly well intentioned people who's efforts are manipulated for various ulterior motives. We have proof that the US Army, under the direction of Project Paperclip Nazi's, experimented on its own soldiers throughout the 50's and 60's. Likely the 70's, too. And I would not be surprised if it has never stopped, since we have those nice little relics of decades past still (Gulf War Syndrome, for example).

I feel sorry for our soldiers. I am thankful that they love me enough, a total stranger, to be willing to die for me. It is most unfortunate that there really isn't a need for them to actually have to die for me. Because in reality, they aren't dying for me, they are dying for a bank account. I appreciate the ones that serve with honor and valor, and understand those that just can't quite measure up (without giving a pass to the true monsters that kill civilians because they are sociopathic psychos). It is a tough job, being away from your family, sitting in a tent somewhere God knows where. I would rather they be here, to raise their kids and provide some direction that our country seems to be lacking right now.

I dunno.....its a real messed up situation. I don't like so much of it that it is hard to figure out exactly what I think about it. Other than I just don't like it.



reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 08:47 AM by PlanetxIsComing
reply to post by randomname


I gave you a star, just wow horrific, this world is just so screwed up I hate it and it's not finished yet, my God what is next to come, but you know it's not just wars where there is torture being used, parents doing it to their own children, friends doing it to friends, only the other day i read a story in the sun newspaper of 2 male friends torturing a friend for 2 days solid this story was horrific too, there is just no end the world is a nasty evil place, the royals are evil, all bankers and governments, I HATE THIS EVIL PLANET, however the earth is beautiful it's just the humans on it that are destroying life how it should be lived, loving and peacful, this is just my 2 cents worth as i'm horrifed today of what we've all been shown, disgusting human race.



reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 09:56 AM by stirling
Originally posted by Monicle
Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to
post by Blackmarketeer



I'm so disgusted this was covered up by both the Afghani and US Govt.

Damn bloody shocking!


You act surprised, where have you been living, in a cave? No offense of course.


THIS...............


reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 10:34 AM by CthulhuMythos
reply to post by Blackmarketeer



Thank you for the correction. After reading the article again I see I had picked it up wrongly and had thought he was in charge of the hospital.
However, the fact still remains he was in charge the NTM-A and CSTC-A and knew of the disaster that was occurring there. This in a way makes things even worse for him as he was at the top of the tree and still did nothing, and in fact tried to prohibit an investigation and instigate a cover-up by the looks of it.
The fact that a blind eye has been turned on this for so many years is appalling, and a big tell tale as to what the top brass really care or don't care about in this whole situation.

I agree, this guy should be hanging for this one, along with every other corrupt official who is causing or allowing such suffering. The question still remains, however, why is he now in charge of another unit??

Thanks again for your correction, muchly appreciated.
edit on 30-7-2012 by CthulhuMythos because: missed letter 'd' correction



reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 11:21 AM by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by CthulhuMythos



Because he was the guy who ultimately paid this hospital's operating costs (something like $150 mil a year) he had a personal obligation to see how it was ran. I understand he may have started some sort of investigation of his own, but he still had the obligation to report his findings to the DoD and ultimately to Congress, so we as a country know what we are getting for that money, or what we as a country are backing. That's where the real failing comes into play, by continuing to fund this place and not reporting it we, by our silence, gave a tacit approval to it.

One of the biggest failings of both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars was how we pumped billions of dollars into organizations in those countries with no real idea where that money was going. We created a blackmarket culture of corruption and greed designed to rob us and their countrymen. I have no doubt that our tax dollars passed through corrupt middlemen and went to the very enemy we were supposed to be fighting.

This hospital should be the poster child of everything that is wrong with the war in Afghanistan.


reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 11:31 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by kabfighter



Actually, a lot of nursing homes come under fire for neglectign patients or patients dying.

Some 5,283 nursing homes were cited for abuse violations, according to a review of state inspection records requested by Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Calif. These homes were cited for nearly 9,000 abuse violations from January 1999 to January 2001.


cbs.com


reply posted on 30-7-2012 @ 11:50 AM by bigfatfurrytexan
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by wylekat
I had a nervous breakdown when I was in the navy. (I wont go into it) I was presented with the option of going to a military hospital, and refused, since I saw this VERY SAME sort of thing happening elsewhere (I had read an article, cannot remember the hospital). I refused, and was given an other than honorable discharge. Shame I can't get a lawsuit.....

Edited: I forgot to mention- this was right around 1990
edit on 30-7-2012 by wylekat because: Forgot the date


You guys should visit some government funded nursing homes,

I will shoot myself first.


My wife worked at a VA funded nursing home as a treatment nurse. i could write pages....PAGES....about egregious neglect. She tried to follow my advice of "be the change", but just couldn't do it anymore. She worked there for 8 months, put in 60hrs/week to try to compensate for the horrible care deriving from horrible policies, and then had to take 3 months off from work just to feel like she could do nursing again. This is her 3rd week back to work

The final straw came when the nursing home administrator was asked by her about a change in process while she was trying to get meals out for lunch. He answered her with, "Um, who are you? Why are you even talking to me? Your hall will get their food when your staff decides to come serve it to your patients. " She said, "So you are not allowing me to serve my patients till more of my staff are here?" He replied, "Yup. If you want your folks to eat, you need to get your coworkers moving". She quit 10 minutes later, and called the state inspectors. They just put the home in "immediate jeopardy" for the 15th time in 2 years (the last time was when someone died from neglect...the wandered off 5 minutes after being admitted and were hit by a semi) The fact that the administrator was willing to leverage patient care for employee performance was mind numbingly heartless.
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