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The Internet Map - NSA and AboveTopSecret are Neighbors

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 01:28 AM
How we all forget how the Internet, came to be..............

The Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was the world's first operational packet switching network and the core network of a set that came to compose the global Internet. The network was funded by the Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) which later evolved into the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) of the United States Department of Defense for use by its projects at universities and research laboratories in the US. The packet switching of the ARPANET was based on designs by Lawrence Roberts of the Lincoln Laboratory.[1]


Or this.......

Regardless, The Internet will always be held in the Government back pocket..... It always was.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 01:31 AM

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by JPhish

ATS should move.
I hear the neighbors are REALLY nosey busy bodies!

AMEN Brother~!


posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 01:50 AM

to me it's a virtual or even non-virtual, universe depends how you look at it, Each dot regardless of size, has one planet orbiting another planet, which.. so on and so forth, and those planets which orbit closely to the other depending on it's size =significance to the larger planet it's orbiting.

.. and if you zoom all the way out, it's pretty cool to say the least.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 01:54 AM

Originally posted by ishum
dont think i've ever seen a link for the NSA website posted so how can there
be switching from here to there? i haven 't been to the NSA site that i can remember so
have no idea if they have links to here. but as someone mentioned i would think theyd have
a way to hide their tracks.

can anyone show me an example of a nsa link from here?

Here's a couple:

Although, to me, they don't seem to be talking about clicking hyperlinks, as in URLs. They seem to just be saying a link, or connection between two sites, is inferred when people go from one site to another. Clicking a hyperlink might be how they navigated, but not necessarily. It's a little unclear.

Users’ switching between websites forms links, and the stronger the link, the closer the websites tend to arrange themselves to each other.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 02:07 AM
For what it's worth, a Google search shows there are no hyperlinks from the NSA website to ATS. search

So my explanation would rely on my above post being the case.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 02:32 AM
reply to post by evilod

ahh yes i remember those now. thankyou for responding.

i agree with a couple of others, ATS needs to move....... thinking to the lower right.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 05:37 AM

Originally posted by evilod

Originally posted by Notadisinfoagent
What are the odds of NSA being next to ATS on it haha O.o

It means a lot of people that visit ATS also visit the NSA site (and/or vice versa, but I'd imagine the majority of the correlation is ATS linking to NSA). Makes perfect sense really.

That is what this means, and if you think about it, both the NSA and ATS are information-gathering websites. I personally like ATS, and by visiting it every day, I usually pick up on everything going on in the world - it is really nice to have all of these dedicated members surfing the web and bringing to light information, and I try my best to help this, too.

Maybe the NSA uses ATS to help it figure out what is going on in the world? Something tells me this has to do with NSA members visiting ATS more than ATS members visiting the NSA website... good find, OP.

Edit: personally, I find ATS a lot more interesting... I almost fell asleep at the NSA website.
edit on 29-7-2012 by darkbake because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 05:44 AM
Somebody do a screen garb for me please, the link takes my phone to a page saying the site is somebodies exsperiment, with a donate button, other than that I can't see what you guys see

Tell you what is wierd, last week, I joined numerous anon platforms, and after being on IRC I was immmediatley locked out of both internet accounts that I own, with no explanation as to why, I had to send pins to my mobile to gain access again.

Makes you think twice really doesn't it.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:02 AM
reply to post by JPhish

wow that is so cool nice find it looks like the www in universe form coooooool...oh and thats suspicious lol

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 06:31 AM
You people are all mad, next you will suggest there is a conspiracy about government organisations watching people who believe in conspiracys.
Conspiracy's dont exist and I have it on good authority the NSA dont exist either, they told me.

It just dosnt get any more creepier than seeing that link. To suggest is is only one way traffic from ATS to NSA is insanity.
We know that we are being watched, everybody knows we are being watched.
They know who you are, dont kid yourself.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 07:15 AM
reply to post by borntowatch

But, am I me?

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:24 AM

Originally posted by ChaoticOrder

Originally posted by smilesmcgee
Just for fun typed in some porn sites- NOTHING!!! lol. .. guess there are a lot of gaps on this so called "map"

You simply aren't typing in porn sites which are popular enough. It doesn't list small low traffic websites. Try something like The porn area appears to be near the bottom right of the internet universe.

edit on 28/7/2012 by ChaoticOrder because: (no reason given)

I'm agin porn. Posting a porn site in an ATS thread is unforgivable.

Got any more...for research of course.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 08:32 AM

Originally posted by NuclearPaul
The NSA have the technology and resources to monitor anything, anytime and anyone.

It's not actually relevant if the owners of this site are linked to them or not anyway.

True but what if the investment capital received by the Owners a few years back has intell dirt all over it?

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:27 AM
Not sure if anyone has covered this yet, but the kind of link between NSA and ATS is not possible by "manual" hyperlinks like most people seem to assume. Such a close relationship can only mean there is some bot at work scanning the site for keywords constantly. Take as an example youtube: most ats threads(probably close to or above 50%) have at least one youtube video attached. This means if there was a "clickable" relationship, youtube would be way closer than NSA.GOV. Since this relationship is much stronger than that, it is most probably due to some constantly runing "webspider" type bot scanning the site. Also consider how close GLP is to NSA.GOV... and you have your confirmation

Anyone still doubt there are paid shills on ATS ?

edit on 29-7-2012 by NeoVain because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:33 AM
reply to post by JPhish

People from the NSA are debunkers on here, what a surprise, yawn, nice to see confirmation though, not that many needed it.

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:43 AM

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by tauristercus

I couldn't help but notice your note on my way to get some sleep and it brought something to mind...

When you look into the abyss, the abyss looks into you.

How close do you figure you have to get to the most extensive set of computer experts and professional paranoids the world has ever produced....for them to glance back at ya just out of curiosity?

The screen does flash at you as soon as you enter that site . Proberly snapping a photo .

The post is so short to that link so I will assume my laptop is completelt fouled up now with whatever . I hate the internet as its invasive .

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posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:44 AM

Originally posted by Ear-Responsible
Funny this gets brought up. A couple of years ago I witnessed a member bring this to the attention of ATS. He showed how the ip's all led back to the DoD. There was actually another conspiracy site created out of all this madness. Lots of members were banned and some left willingly, no longer trusting the 'owners' of ATS.
edit on 28-7-2012 by Ear-Responsible because: (no reason given)

Yea that's right. I distinctly remember in the fall of 2009 the beginning of a huge influx of debunkers, you know, the kind of person who is threatened by anything that has not been officially sanctioned by the government or proven by government approved scientists.

The trend got worse. I made mention in a few threads how the flavor of ATS was rapidly changing. It went from a site that felt like the conversations of a group of open-minded scientists considering way out topics on their lunch hour willing to consider and discuss topics they might not be willing to speak about openly at work to a site moderated by ranting, dogmatic, official story only KGB agents.

It became so obvious that all I had to do was glance at the ranting fool's join date and recognize the obvious. Then something funny happened. Other members complained of the same trend, a bunch of members left in disgust, some got banned here and on Godlikeproductions for mentioning what seemed to be obvious then, all of the sudden many ranting fools had join dates of 2008 and earlier.

I suggested disinfo agents were hacking ATS and stealing old an inactive members log-ins. My theory was discounted and ridiculed by mods then my log-in was hacked...twice. For me that was proof that this site, if not actively run by NSA, then at a minimum used as a tracking platform for public awareness and psyop push-polling.

For a while I was angry. Then I quit wasting my time here. But then something wonderful occurred. I realized I wasn't the only person seeing through the BS. I needn't be worried about my real brothers and sisters being fooled by $10/post paid bloggers or NSA douchebags. People were waking up and becoming immune to the old style of propaganda.

Later, I discovered people like David Wilcock who mentioned a global awakening. Predictions were made and supported suggesting the fall of the dark cabal as a critical mass of individuals woke up to the fraud that has been perpetrated against us for so long.

Today that hypothesis has proven itself over and over. It's gaining momentum and is irreversible. It's a matter of time until every citizen is wearing the sunglasses from the movie "They Live" and are able to see right through the bull ship. Now I'm laughing my ass off and come here for entertainment.

It's so damn funny that I've even moved back to McLean, Va just a stones throw from the CIA so I can have a front row seat to watch the filth scrubbed from the streets and the "defense" contractors booted from their tear-down McMansions. But much more importantly, so I can participate on the front lines of rebuilding our country and looking forward to the golden age to come.

Take that bitches!

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 09:58 AM
How would a third party (not ATS or NSA) know about traffic/connections other than loading pages from the sites and looking for links. If it is links then just about anyone should be able to discover them.

If it used simply the mention of the site in text of posts then that becomes a map of topic or interest, not actual connection or links. Some thing more along the line of the webbot.

If it was actual connections, what would be the source of that data. Google Analytics, server logs or cookie data, which a third party would not have access.

For a few mutual links to be high meaning full, one would thinks those would have to be the only links founds.

IE: site A to site B and site B to site A and neither site to any other. That would show a strong connect between the two.

Something seems to not add up. The description of how it works really isn't very clear, at least to me.
edit on 7/29/2012 by roadgravel because: (no reason given)

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:07 AM
reply to post by tauristercus

what I don get is.. Where are the links? It sounds to me that you are on ats,, and click a link to the nsa.. Well.. I dont often see a "link" to the nsa. Many may perhaps leave ats and type in the address to the nsa.. But thats not a link, thats me browsing. So wheres the link?

posted on Jul, 29 2012 @ 10:16 AM
Now what, I wonder, would cause such a relationship? Or a better question, who made TOR?

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