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Originally posted by DevilJonah
I've been reading all of these threads about the NWO and signs of its coming, blah blah blah...
But I'm just curious, what's so bad about a new world order? Global Unity, a centralized worldwide monetary system and healthcare, worldwide security...I can see so many positive ways to spin a one-world government, and so little as a negative.
All the down sides I've seen, are all stuff that are already happening. From what I can tell, we already get all the bad stuff without any of the good of having it. Can anyone actually tell me what is so bad about a one world government? I mean some logical reasoning that isn't just a bunch of negative conspiracy theory and random guesses about "what could" happen?
It just seems like everyone is just looking at the concept through the eyes of a bias and negative lens. Am I wrong? Does anyone feel like I do?
Instead of fighting it, why can't we just help build it better? Instead of stopping it based on negative projections, why can't we fight for world unity and assure that we are part of building a better solution instead of trying to stop it out of fear of what could be?
Originally posted by seabhac-rua
Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX
What part of killing 90% of the population, brainwashing people into Luciferianism, and the government becoming God do you not understand? No, it's not better for the whole of humanity. It'll rip everyone from God, and the separate nations are meant to be EXACTLY that--separate.
A new world order will happen, and it will fail. Never embrace it. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing, a devil on God's throne, and a murderer playing the peacemaker. The idea of an all-problem-solving one world government is a hypnotic illusion, nothing more.
You want the greater good? F#@$ the greater good. Who are human beings to attempt understanding the what the greater good is? Do good for people, survive. That's it. There's no need for them to watch, spy, and document on EVERYONE and EVERYTHING in the world. Bottom line--they want to be God, and embracing a one world government would be bowing to them.
All you're doing is telling somebodies version of how events will unfold, and unless you truly do have psychic powers and can accurately predict the future you're just spouting nonsense.
I don't think it will ever happen, there are a lot of reasons why I think that, the main one being the world is a big place and the humans on it are too culturally diverse, unity under a single governing body is just never going to happen, not in a million years, but that's just my opinion.
edit on 29-7-2012 by seabhac-rua because: (no reason given)
Q: Svali, you said Illuminists are working hard for those goals and looking forward to the final implementation of the 'glorious New Order', or world government, so that they can take part and be leaders in that society. At what point will the Illuminati be satisfied with their achievements, and what is their vision of that 'glorious New Order'? What shape, form or system will it have, what political infrastucture? Dictatorial, communist, democratic? Will there be an end to their struggle for global control?
Savli: I was taught that during the coming "Order" or Government, that it would at first be a heavily dictatorial and military government. This is why there is extensive training of covert military forces in all ranks, to implement this policy. Why? Because not everyone will welcome their ''enlightened'' rule, and there will be those who oppose them.
Their army is being trained in crowd control techniques and camps will be set up to send dissenters to. Think of Hitler's Germany, which was a prototype. The government will be highly authoritative and centralized in the Supreme World Council, with the national councils and regional councils under its control.
The implementation of a semi-marxist, or military socialism, will then follow (Marx was an Illuminist, and was told what to write in his treatises), co-ordinated under the umbrella of the regional and national councils. Financial power will be held at the national and international levels. People will be asked to work at reduced wages for the glory of serving the New Order, although compensation will be based on loyalty and performance as time goes on (much as in Marxist and Leninistic Russia)
Q: Does the Illuminati have natural enemies or predators, or competitors with the same goals of global control?
Svali: Not that I know of. They are very aware of the Templar Knights, and OTO [Ordo Templi Orientis, a Catholic secret society that is a sister group to the Templar Knights and is involved in lots of occult and illegal activities as well], and while the two groups are split in some areas, they are very sympathetic and share resources with each other. The only true enemy that they see is the Christian church, which opposes all that they do. Because the Illuminati are based in occult spirituality, they despise any group that espouses Judaism or fundamental Christianity as being their mortal enemies. This is because Christians engage in spiritual warfare that hurts their cause.
Originally posted by Sly1one
reply to post by DevilJonah
Your assumption that a one world government would be positive and have many "good things" is just as bias and based on fantasy as you claim others of being...
Its ALL ideological and experimental. There is no guarantee that "what we want" will come to fruition...There is no guarantee that it won't be a socialist state where were all in the same boat together regardless of our personal goals, ambitions, desires...
There is no guarantee that any of it will be as positive as you seem to think it might be...and because of that; for many, its not worth the attempt. Once you have a one world government infrastructure setup, there will be no correcting it or fighting it if it decides it just wan'ts to abuse you...
you think making a dent in local politics is hard? Try a one world governmental politics...Also, the notion that it will somehow unite people is the most absurd, irrational, and quite possibly insane claim to make. As if a one world government will suddenly in the blink of an eye end the feuds that have been brewing between the peoples of the world for ages...
All a one world government does is consolidate the worlds people under fewer and fewer psychopathic jackasses than the current model we have now.
edit on 28-7-2012 by Sly1one because: (no reason given)