reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I like that description, yes, and it also goes well with the avatar, whether yours or mine.
And the "New Jerusalem" or the "city of God" that's the rest of the cosmos, coming down from above, as from a first/last cause in eternity i.e.: by
superintelligent design. An astrophysicist by the name of Bernard Haisch he's convinced that the radiant ocean of the akashic field or zero point
field, in it's interaction with and generation of matter and the physical world we inhabit , represents an intentional and intelligent subtraction
from, the Absolute Formless Potential out of which everything has arisen (to make our experience possible). So you're right that the body (earth,
manifestation) and the spirit are the Spirit and the Bride, that's very good, very interesting. And what you're saying is that the church swapped out
the true meaning and significance by dispensing mass in the form of a dry and stale solar-disc wafer, which for all we know contains the spittle of
priests and bishops.
Whereas Jesus is the universal man, son of God, who if anything came to remind us of our common sonship with God the heavenly father (originator). To
know him is to eat of him, to "grok", but that's not mediated by the church, so they put a subtle twist on the intended meaning and significance of
Jesus' message, mission and purpose, and turn it into a priest's hand placing a dry solar wafer on the tongues of the flock.
I'm still glad however that the church formed the stained glass bottle in which the message has been floated down to us. When taken together with
these additional writings like the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Nag Hemmadi Library, something emerges, and it cannot be so easily cast aside or written
off as having no meaning or significance.
Miracles, you asked?
He did some, yes, some, because there were "works" and wonders, and I think that some
"miracles" occurred simply because Jesus really was a
focal point of increasing power and authority in creation as the true son, so in some cases reality might have played along, for a time, when each act
was performed for all the right reasons, and in the sense that they were demonstrations of universal principals in that sense they didn't really break
the laws of physics, only the laws of physics as we know them. He might have risen in stature to the point of accessing the power of the throne, when
required, which is situated right in the brain of a human being at that interface between spirit and the creation, including the body. For example I
don't think that he walked on water, or that his fearful disciple did either, and I don't think we're meant to take that story literally, and of
course if that one's not really "true" then why accept others..? (hint: because it was to be read allegorically as part of the apocrypha of the
I do believe that he calmed a storm, brought immediate wellness to people of many ailments, the "water to wine" that can be done very easily with a
concentrate of the highest grade mixed with water placed in the barrels in advance (and his mother knew it and they were playing along together where
she says to the wineless servants "do whatever he tells you" ..lol so some things he might have done for effect, not as "tricks" but as symbolic
demonstrations of a higher truth, and others, as his power continue to grow he became ever more capable of doing the "impossible".
It is said that he was possessed of an immense virtue where virtue may be defined as power, restrained.
Any miracles, authentic miracles by ever normal standard, contained at their core a deep fundamental universal truth, and that's why they happened
because he compelled them to happen and they just couldn't help but play along.
His mission, like when they came across Jacob's Well and the town of Sychar, appears to have been one that might be considered a karmic (historical)
cleanup mission, and I believe that his power accumulated all along the way, as expected, and as his faith was perfected if it wasn't already to the
nth degree by the time he re-entered the scene as a full grown adult. Then again, something happened at his baptism and during the 40 days in the
wilderness, and when news came of John's beheading (which as I've pointed out earlier was probably anticipated in advance by both Jesus and John), so
there was transformation and increasing power of which the transfiguration on the Mount of Olives could have taken place..
Many of the Eastern traditions are ripe with miracle stories.
One of the early historians of the time referred to Jesus who was crucified under Pontias Pilate as a "sorcerer". Now why would that be? And then
there's all of Jesus' exchanges with the Scribes and Pharisees wherein Jesus continually refers, not just to his words and character, but to his
"works", which runs through all the gospels time and again so yes, I believe there were some miracles.
But in his "retirement" after leaving town never to return again, I don't think there were miracles. They were no longer needed.
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