reply to post by graphuto
Well to begin with, I'm pointing to the fact that Jesus cousin John, an Essene
The Essenes (in Modern but not in Ancient Hebrew: אִסִּיִים, Isiyim; Greek: Εσσήνοι, Εσσαίοι, or Οσσαίοι; Essēnoi,
Essaioi, Ossaioi) were a sect of Second Temple Judaism that flourished from the 2nd century BCE to the 1st century CE which some scholars claim
seceded from the Zadokite priests. Being much fewer in number than the Pharisees and the Sadducees (the other two major sects at the time), the
Essenes lived in various cities but congregated in communal life dedicated to asceticism, voluntary poverty, daily immersion, and abstinence from
worldly pleasures, including (for some groups) celibacy. Many separate but related religious groups of that era shared similar mystic,
eschatological, messianic, and ascetic beliefs. These groups are collectively referred to by various scholars as the "Essenes." Josephus records
that Essenes existed in large numbers, and thousands lived throughout Roman Judæa.
The Essenes have gained fame in modern times as a result of the discovery of an extensive group of religious documents known as the Dead Sea Scrolls,
which are commonly believed to be Essenes' library—although there is no proof that the Essenes wrote them. These documents include preserved
multiple copies of the Hebrew Bible untouched from as early as 300 BCE until their discovery in 1946. Some scholars, however, dispute the notion that
the Essenes wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls. Rachel Elior questions even the existence of the Essenes.
The first reference is by the Roman writer Pliny the Elder (died c. 79 CE) in his Natural History. Pliny relates in a few lines that the Essenes
do not marry, possess no money, and had existed for thousands of generations. Unlike Philo, who did not mention any particular geographical location
of the Essenes other than the whole land of Israel, Pliny places them in Ein Gedi, next to the Dead Sea.
A little later Josephus gave a detailed account of the Essenes in The Jewish War (c. 75 CE), with a shorter description in Antiquities of the Jews
(c. 94 CE) and The Life of Flavius Josephus (c. 97 CE). Claiming first hand knowledge, he lists the Essenoi as one of the three sects of Jewish
philosophy alongside the Pharisees and the Sadducees. He relates the same information concerning piety, celibacy, the absence of personal property
and of money, the belief in communality and commitment to a strict observance of Sabbath. He further adds that the Essenes ritually immersed in
water every morning, ate together after prayer, devoted themselves to charity and benevolence, forbade the expression of anger, studied the books
of the elders, preserved secrets, and were very mindful of the names of the angels kept in their sacred writings.
.. and Jesus, were closely tied to one another as children, for starters, whereby John was aware of Jesus' lineage "difficulty" (lack of a true
father in Joseph), the strange visitation by the Magi when Jesus was a toddler, along with the escape from Herod's murder of the 300 children, in his
attempt to kill what the Magi described as the birth of the King of the Jews, all very significant, wondrous and rather traumatic events, formative
The Holy Infants Embracing, by Leonardo daVinci
The subject matter relates to the two paintings of the Virgin of the Rocks by Leonardo and numerous other Renaissance works by Raphael and others of
the meeting of the two children on the road to Egypt while escaping the Massacre of the Innocents.
Then we have the missing years of Jesus' life, which I believe occurred as a result of two reasons, one that the boy Jesus might have had difficulty
fitting in with the other children his age (ie: teased and bullied unrelentingly, for being fatherless, maybe even looking a little different - they
were under Roman occupation at the time..) and two, because Jesus was "special", like a bit of a star child (for real!), and therefore he ought to go
away, to some monestary or the sister library of Alexandria, and then return and reintegrate back into Jewish society later on, as an adult but Jesus
clearly had something else in mind that would ultimately have him not just visiting for a few years but eventually leaving town never to return
With John, from the wilderness (apart from the temple) blazing the trail as they say, yet neither eating or drinking as an aesthetic, as an Essene
("John came neither eating or drinking, and you called him insane. Here I come both eating and drinking - no doubt you'll call me a glutton and a
The plot was hatched well in advance, via an irreversible and inevitable clash with an evil empire, and a bullied boy sent away, to school, to learn
everything about his true nature, and all that could be known about the world including many of the various traditions, and philosophical streams,
even methods of debate, and mastery of the art of disguise, the works.
This super-Jesus then came back - as announced by John in advance, like a bolt of lightening and armed to the teeth and then some, to mutually
fulfill, with John, an ancient prophecy, and complete a "Great Work" set in motion really from the beginning of space time ie: superdeterministic,
with the birth signs and the killing of the 300 innocents serving like a marker, and Jesus' life "bracketed" by the signs around his birth
(Jupiter/Venus conjunction at conception, and retrograde movement of Jupiter upon arrival of the Magi, later), and a full blood red moon rising (as
would be visible from Jerusalem) at the mid-point of his life (age 33) and thus, he knew, well in advance, the very day and the very hour - and then
on that day, already
on the cross, on April 3rd, 33AD, the moon rose on the horizon mid-afternoon already having begun to pass into eclipse
(not a solar eclipse mind you, but a lunar one). He knew. Jesus knew. John also knew. And others came to learn, both friends and foe alike..
Now play this tape back, from the POV of Jesus' (and John's) enemies, and then recognize that the two of them (Jesus and John) worked it all out in
advance, and had literally years to prepare, in Jesus' case, if he left as a pre-pubescent child, then it would have been about 18 years, of
Consider this version the Ninja Magus Spiritual Warrior Jesus, returning... armed to the nines in about every way imaginable, to fulfill a prophecy
not only written on paper, but in the very motion of the earth, moon, sun, planets and the starry skies above, with signs surrounding his birth (see
Real Star of Bethlehem video series), and a full, blood red moon sitting there at his half life, waiting for him, for his hour..
"My hour has not yet come."
How many times did he say that..?
Therefore, how did he know (all the way down the line, what to do) and by "he" just who, precisely are we really talking about here, since the
prophecies and signs are like markers for self remembrance and recognition.. namely that the father loved the son from before
foundation of the world. "Love them as you loved me from before the foundation of the world."
It's the story of a bullied boy with a controversial family origin, making a return, to perform a great work on behalf of all men while reconciling
humanity to God and resolving once and for all time the "problem of sin or evil".
And it was a time of conflict and messianic fervor with lots of "holy men" coming and going, yet in their midst, one Jesus of Nazareth got the whole
job done and played his part quite literally to a "t".
That's a start anyway..Hope that helps.
P.S. < < See my avatar for more clues..
Also, sit down and read the Gospels (can be read in a single sitting) one more time, for the entire context and greater insight.
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